Just plain nuts

[Insedeel]

Do we honestly need a 3rd topic about the exp penalties? Admins, I'm surprised you've put up with as much as you already have about this without locking these down.

Lets make it simple and reiterate what's already been said in the previous 2 threads.

1. This is a classic server that tries to emulate to the BEST of it's ability and time the devs have to put stuff in (even if it's late) to emulate the good and the BAD that was in the original classic EQ. Don't like it, you don't need to play on here, and the devs certainly don't and won't change things back after implementing a classic mechanic just because it makes it harder now, or benefits/worsens some classes over others.

2. If the devs started changing things that people just didn't "like" just because it wasn't liked then it no longer becomes a classic server. It becomes a server that only has the original game without any expansions. Not a "classic" server.

3. There's a reason this server is so popular, it's because the devs don't listen to these kinds of threads, and I hope to god that never changes, because if that does change, than it ruins the entire foundation this server was built upon which is to most "accurately" within the devs time/power emulate the classic experience as possible.

4. You can quit if you want and come back in late velious. In late velious is when the racial/class exp penalties were changed, so you can look forward to it changing sometime in the distant future when Velious is around.

Hope this helps answer your questions.

[Halladar]

Originally Posted by Insedeel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do we honestly need a 3rd topic about the exp penalties? Admins, I'm surprised you've put up with as much as you already have about this without locking these down.

Lets make it simple and reiterate what's already been said in the previous 2 threads.

1. This is a classic server that tries to emulate to the BEST of it's ability and time the devs have to put stuff in (even if it's late) to emulate the good and the BAD that was in the original classic EQ. Don't like it, you don't need to play on here, and the devs certainly don't and won't change things back after implementing a classic mechanic just because it makes it harder now, or benefits/worsens some classes over others.

2. If the devs started changing things that people just didn't "like" just because it wasn't liked then it no longer becomes a classic server. It becomes a server that only has the original game without any expansions. Not a "classic" server.

3. There's a reason this server is so popular, it's because the devs don't listen to these kinds of threads, and I hope to god that never changes, because if that does change, than it ruins the entire foundation this server was built upon which is to most "accurately" within the devs time/power emulate the classic experience as possible.

4. You can quit if you want and come back in late velious. In late velious is when the racial/class exp penalties were changed, so you can look forward to it changing sometime in the distant future when Velious is around.

Hope this helps answer your questions.

No it doesn't. Not at all.

I'd like to know what the thoughts of the devs are on this. I want them to explain to the best of their ability what use these penalties are.

I'd like them to explain why what is about to happen to Rangers is good.

I'd really have like it 10 years ago if they had fired Abashi and Smedley had explained everything.

I'd also like you personally to explain what it is about the way xp is now that enhances the game for you. Why does that 40% hybrid penalty matter so much?

Can you answer that? I mean even a guess? Got anything?

[Insedeel]

Originally Posted by Halladar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No it doesn't. Not at all.

I'd like to know what the thoughts of the devs are on this. I want them to explain to the best of their ability what use these penalties are.

I'd like them to explain why what is about to happen to Rangers is good.

I'd really have like it 10 years ago if they had fired Abashi and Smedley had explained everything.

I'd also like you personally to explain what it is about the way xp is now that enhances the game for you. Why does that 40% hybrid penalty matter so much?

Can you answer that? I mean even a guess? Got anything?

Why does it matter? Why it matters is because that's the way it was back in classic eq. The reasoning by smedley/absor don't matter because the devs aren't going based off their reasonings to have the penalties. They're going purely based off the reasoning that it was there, so it's emulated on this server for "accuracy" sake. Accuracy is the only driving reasoning. Smedley and verant in general thought later in the game that this was the wrong way to go about it, admitted by themselves. That they found it to be a mistake doesn't matter when it comes to accurately recreating this server as it was and trying to emulate around the same timeframe of changes. The exp penalty wasn't changed until velious, so that's where it'll be here for "accuracy" to classic's sake.

[holkan]

Originally Posted by Halladar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No it doesn't. Not at all.

I'd like to know what the thoughts of the devs are on this. I want them to explain to the best of their ability what use these penalties are.

I'd like them to explain why what is about to happen to Rangers is good.

I'd really have like it 10 years ago if they had fired Abashi and Smedley had explained everything.

I'd also like you personally to explain what it is about the way xp is now that enhances the game for you. Why does that 40% hybrid penalty matter so much?

Can you answer that? I mean even a guess? Got anything?

Well hell lets just add pok books and a bazaar no one likes traveling across the world for the 9000th time seeing the same stuff or sitting in EC hitting shift up arrow to repeat their trade message for the 50th time while tabbing out of the game to do other things. Oh wait some people do enjoy that shit. What may seem like torture to some people is love for another. Maybe some people love the challenge that the penalty brings maybe they want it as close they can get to their old experiences the good things and the horrible things.

The bottom line is nilbog wants to make this server as close to classic as he possibly can the awful things and the amazing things. Anything he doesn't change is simply limited by the client. I'm sure if he could erase all our knowledge of the game some how he'd do it just so it could be that much closer to 1999.