TMO resort to hacking in VP

[Ele]

Originally Posted by kenzar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1 person/1 client. IP exemptions are not for people to have the ease of switching between their alts quickly, its to allow for multiple people who share a connection to all play. Anything less than that is gaining an exemption through unscrupulous means. Again, Im not arguing about its use, just the way it was obtained. Holy fuck you dont read well. Stop straw-manning my shit and just accept the statement for what it is.

You're equating a later use with the initial request. These two are not the same.

Play situations change. A person may have need for an ip exemption at one point with a roommate, then said roommate leaves. Is it then incumbent on the roommate and the original player to ask for their ip exemptions to be removed?

Does the fact that one or both of them have an ip exemption, but live separately mean that it was obtained through "unscrupulous means"? Not at all, it means that their situation changed and the later use of a rightfully obtained exemption may be for less than legitimate purposes and should be handled by server staff appropriately.

What if they want to get together to play again later? Should they have to reapply for a single weekend hangout?

There are people that ask for exemptions that never need them. I do think that the application process should be more stringent and all current ip exemptions should be wiped and require people to reapply.

[Mortiiss]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Global rules (read: enforceable in VP) concerning multi-boxing (IP exemptions) and exploiting:

Abusing IP exemption: permanent ban
Exploiting to provide and unintended advantage: permanent ban
Doing the above to provide an unintended advantage for an entire guild: Raid suspension

How does that apply to VP though since its a no CSR zone? Do they ignore exploits from there as well? Honest question, I don't know.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Mortiiss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How does that apply to VP though since its a no CSR zone? Do they ignore exploits from there as well? Honest question, I don't know.

Global server rules are still enforceable in VP. You'll notice I make no mention of the PNP nor training nor any of the "PVE Server Rules", only the "Global rules".

[Mortiiss]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Global server rules are still enforceable in VP. You'll notice I make no mention of the PNP nor training nor any of the "PVE Server Rules", only the "Global rules".

Gotcha - so raid suspension?

[falkun]

This is evident in the Perun and Anthrax suspensions that happened for ninja looting (a global rule) and the "Don't kill merbs here due to pathing exploits" Amelinda rule.

[47shadesofgay]

Don't kid yourselves too much.. the rules are applied at the behest of the ruling GM.

They're more like.. guidelines.

[quido]

yeah east lansing sucks, no doubt

people are fucking retarded and it smells like poop and vomit

[Frieza_Prexus]

Visceral and Getsome,

Please get off your high horses. If you want my personal opinion you need only ask: I submit that the use of exemptions for ALL non-essential (read: so 2 people can play) uses should be disallowed and coded so as to be stymied a much as possible. I asked my questions as an academic point, and because I suspect that much of this outrage is manufactured especially in light of the fact that many of these supposedly culpable uses are widespread and have a very seriously developed history of used by many parties.

Should the uses be allowed in the future? In my opinion, no. However, should we be out for blood for those who have used them in the past? Of that, I am unsure.

[47shadesofgay]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah east lansing sucks, no doubt

people are fucking retarded and it smells like poop and vomit

Driving down Grand Ave makes me wanna die

[47shadesofgay]

grand river ave*