Asking a favor from the two top guilds on the server - Page 22

Llodd · #**211** 03-19-2013, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty sure he said if a few of those guilds merged they could compete for the mobs. If you feel that means zerging that's your perception, or if you look at it rationally it could just mean that if you have a guild of 40 ppl and you merge with a guild of 40 ppl then it's more likely you could field 30-40 ppl to kill raid mobs when it pops. Just curious what is your raiding experience here on P99?

How do they compete for the mobs? They have to poopsock and 24/7 track/batphone
Which requires stupidly large guilds with enough able to log in at a moments notice.

Now there are other alternatives to that, but unfortunately they require server cooperation. Something to which this thread pertains - and the answer from the GM is not exactly in the spirit of that is it. It was a terrible reply whichever way you look at it, not to mention uninspiringly unoriginal.

maverixdamighty · #**212** 03-19-2013, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Llodd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How do they compete for the mobs? They have to poopsock and 24/7 track/batphone
Which requires stupidly large guilds with enough able to log in at a moments notice.

Now there are other alternatives to that, but unfortunately they require server cooperation. Something to which this thread pertains - and the answer from the GM is not exactly in the spirit of that is it. It was a terrible reply whichever way you look at it, not to mention uninspiringly unoriginal.

people still talking about poopsocking aren't in touch with the current raid scene. Daimadoshi my only question for you is were you championing this when you were in IB and they had the server content on lockdown?

finalgrunt · #**213** 03-19-2013, 05:55 AM

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people still talking about poopsocking aren't in touch with the current raid scene. Daimadoshi my only question for you is were you championing this when you were in IB and they had the server content on lockdown?

If you've been around and close to me since I started playing on p99, you would know the answer.
Let's say I wasn't advocating IB's policy, even after the merge. Got almost booted for that few times [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] (You would be hard pressed to find any occurence of me killing a poopsocked target. Because it never happened). But I also knew that I couldn't do anything to prevent it. Hyper competition is/was backed up by the staff, and clearly stated they wouldn't do anything to change it. There are some players who don't mind going full hardcore. Do the math. It's left to players to come up with solutions.

Today, I believe there is an opportunity with TMO & FE, and I'm just trying to get a reasonable request through. It's now in the hands of TMO to shake a hand on this, and help this server becoming a better place (while leaving an overwhelming ratio of the content available for hyper competition). Which I've come to accept. I don't agree with it, but that's because my classic experience differs from others, due to the server's nature I played on.

Tanthallas · #**214** 03-19-2013, 06:05 AM

Diamadoshi was arguing this with me back when IB and DA were going at it; I dont think his position ever changed.

I do not think such an agreement is possible like this at this point in time. FE was formed to put the heat on TMO, and agreeing to such terms would just give them time to relax which is exactly what they want.

Once the VP battles start, guilds that dont have the capacity or drive to mobilize in minutes will have much more time and much more content available. Having multiple characters will not mean much because leaving VP to kill other things on other characters will be a pretty large handicap.

maverixdamighty · #**215** 03-19-2013, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by finalgrunt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you've been around and close to me since I started playing on p99, you would knew the answer.
Let's say I wasn't advocating IB's policy, even after the merge. Got almost booted for that few times [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] (You would be hard pressed to find any occurence of me killing a poopsocked target. Because it never happened). But I also knew that I couldn't do anything to prevent it. Hyper competition is/was backed up by the staff, and clearly stated they wouldn't do anything to change it. There are some players who don't mind going full hardcore. Do the math. It's left to players to come up with solutions.

Today, I believe there is an opportunity with TMO & FE, and I'm just trying to get a reasonable request through. It's now in the hands of TMO to shake a hand on this, and help this server becoming a better place (while leaving an overwhelming ratio of the content available for hyper competition). Which I've come to accept. I don't agree with it, but that's because my classic experience differs from others, due to the server's nature I played on.

Fair enough was an honest question. Didn't see these types of threads back in the day sponsored by IB is all.

AenarieFenninRo · #**216** 03-19-2013, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They also should enforce a "raid force" policy, that once you have enough players in a zone that could realistically kill a particular target and they are in position to engage such a target that they should be given first dibs on said target.

This suggestion of course has been repeatedly ignored even though it's known there are timestamps for how long characters have been logged in and when they enter zones so proving who's "force" was there first is as simple as a GM looking at a zonelog.

The GMs did this once with the 15 man policy, and all it really did was promote poop socking. I don't think this is the answer we're looking for here.

SamwiseRed · #**217** 03-19-2013, 10:06 AM

should be an old fashion dps race, whoever gets the xp, gets the kill and its loot.

Llodd · #**218** 03-19-2013, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

people still talking about poopsocking aren't in touch with the current raid scene. Daimadoshi my only question for you is were you championing this when you were in IB and they had the server content on lockdown?

well sure. The current added variance has shaken things up bit, but you know full well it existed and would exist again if that was removed. way to miss the point tho, a+

diplo · #**219** 03-19-2013, 01:29 PM

personally, i think your best bet to get a dragon is wait til simulated repops. they should happen atleast once every 3 months, so you'll have your shot there.

maverixdamighty · #**220** 03-19-2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Llodd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well sure. The current added variance has shaken things up bit, but you know full well it existed and would exist again if that was removed. way to miss the point tho, a+

yes because talking about what used to be and is not any more makes an impact moving forward....F++++