Petition for permanent IP ban punishment option

[Lyra]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

RMT has absolutely nothing to do with rising prices in p1999's economy, and many people were implying that.

I disagree.

New players wouldn't be able to buy the gear because they wouldn't have the plat, removing a large portion of the demand.

I'm playing this game....on this server... a lot.

[Darkpretzel]

When I started, about a year and a half ago, fungis were over 100k. Then they started to go down to like 50 or 60k and everyone started freaking out that the server was dying.

[Clark]

Ezalor needs to get a life.

[Loftus]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The primary point I wanted to make, was that RMT has absolutely nothing to do with rising prices in p1999's economy, and many people were implying that.

To make a statement like this only shows how naive you are about the intricacies of any economy, including virtual ones like that on P1999. An imbalance, and it looks like a severe one at that, is introduced when you let real-world economy intrude on the P1999 economy. One can easily foresee the end state: a monopoly by those with enough spare real-world cash to buy all the virtual P1999 platinum. This would force a condition of "no RMT, no way to afford anything in the p1999 economy" - a trend we are starting to see.

If P1999 platinum had no real-world cash value, the motivation to farm platinum for the sole purpose of exchanging it for real-world cash would not exist. With this lack of motivation comes a lack of platinum-flooding.

There's alot of things people would do in a virtual world if the virtual success can be converted into real-world success that they would never otherwise consider.

[Destan]

Originally Posted by OMGWTF420 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

make account selling illegal

This.

Never, in the history of MMOs, has buying accounts benefited the community as a whole. Stop being lazy, level up yourself.

[porigromus]

Make every single piece of gear no drop. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[dragonfists]

Originally Posted by Destan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This.

Never, in the history of MMOs, has buying accounts benefited the community as a whole. Stop being lazy, level up yourself.

old school eq is a grind, but its fun leveling up toons too w/ groups good and bad.. and like above stated, makes for better class players

[tommydgun]

ill tell you why it also affects the economy... because people who are RMTing are the same people who are buying up all the high demand items and increasing their cost. by hoarding items being sold reasonably and putting them back up for extremely high plat cost they are causing inflation on items because normal people who dont spend all day in EC can only find the items they want for the inflated prices. next time that person tries to sell the item they overpaid for, they will also ask for more plat so they dont make a loss and then it just gets worse and worse.

if you dont believe me, look at what items sonaa is buying and selling and look how much sonaa (nocturne) is asking for the items. people are actually starting to think the price for an fbss is 12k, but not many people are actually buying them for 12k...

i really like the idea for plat caps on characters, no selling accounts, no selling PL, and no selling MQs. all of these things are people who are abusing the economy do to make money and a lot of them just to RMT.

just my opinion i suppose, substantiated by activities in game that i have seen. also if nocturne isnt banned based on this forum im going to be pissed.

[skipdog]

Originally Posted by Loftus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To make a statement like this only shows how naive you are about the intricacies of any economy, including virtual ones like that on P1999. An imbalance, and it looks like a severe one at that, is introduced when you let real-world economy intrude on the P1999 economy. One can easily foresee the end state: a monopoly by those with enough spare real-world cash to buy all the virtual P1999 platinum. This would force a condition of "no RMT, no way to afford anything in the p1999 economy" - a trend we are starting to see.

If P1999 platinum had no real-world cash value, the motivation to farm platinum for the sole purpose of exchanging it for real-world cash would not exist. With this lack of motivation comes a lack of platinum-flooding.

There's alot of things people would do in a virtual world if the virtual success can be converted into real-world success that they would never otherwise consider.

Listen, it sure CAN affect the economy like you are saying and it likely is in a small way, but people are greatly overstating it's effect. I have quite a lot of motivation for plat that has nothing to do with RMT and I think the number of people who farm plat for pure RMT purposes are way lower than you think and is maybe making up a very small percentage(5% or less is my best guess) of the plat/items being farmed. The monopoly situation you describe is simply not happening on a scale that makes a difference.

The real issue is a huge amount of 60s sitting at level cap in Kunark era for far too long with nothing to do but accumulate plat every hour they play. The price fluctuations are that, and honestly, it isn't that bad when YOUR items that you can farm sell for more. It's supply and demand and nobody has to buy a thing from Sonaa and Sonaa certainly isn't monopolizing the market.

I'll repeat this again: RMT is bad and we should be aggressively banning anyone who participates. Just trying to point out that some price increases are not due to RMT, it's due to the top-heavy server population.

[raitheon]

Why not have a debt. For every RTM plat found; the person must earn several times that amount to actually gain any funds on the character.

No money on the character / account = no money being transfered in game.

This obviously does nothing for power leveling.