So when did classic get rid of xp penalties?

[RKromwell]

So in the time in between, some classes will just be shunned.

/shrug

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by RKromwell [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So in the time in between, some classes will just be shunned.

/shrug

Gotta make it feel like 1999 all over again, amirite?

[Sarkhan]

Sometimes there are things that just suck about certain games. We wish we could change but in the end, gotta play the game how it is and just try to enjoy it. People knew of the challenges when they started and have to go with it...

That won't stop people (including me) from inquiring about certain aspects though haha

[RKromwell]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gotta make it feel like 1999 all over again, amirite?

If the pattern holds, ranger only equipment will bottom out in no time. You won't be able to give the shit away.

[mimixownzall]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gotta make it feel like 1999 all over again, amirite?

A VAST majority of people did not know that it was a shared exp hit until well into Kunark. When the cat was out of the bag, THEN people started ignoring hybrids/monks/choir boys. Verant was then forced to stop it.

[RKromwell]

No, rangers got kicked in the teeth right out of the starting blocks. We went from being able to tank in the old world to getting shredded in RoK. The mobs hit so much harder, we did not have the def to hold up. I was level 35 when RoK hit and it made the next few months a bitch because of the whole Rangers suck or Ranger Down. Could not get a group to save my life.

[danethor_sol_ro]

im pretty sure ranger suffered from bad rep way before RoK as well.

ill never know what they were thinking to put the penalty in..
pallies?hmm.
sk? maybe.
bard? prolly.
ranger? no?! why? cant solo as well as casters, cant camp fbss all day like they do. cant travel/avoid death like casters. cant bind.well we do get sow at 39 when everybody can easily afford sow pots or camp ac for 1 day to have clicky boots..yay[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] oh well. /qq off. but if they fixed rogues maybe theres light at the end of the tunnel? wtb rain caller with procs and spam hammer mod! and arrow stacks of 1000! hehe

[Thoughtseize]

No one is saying rangers didn't suffer a bad rep prior to Kunark,

The difference between p99 and 1999 is the amount of knowledge the players have. The populace of p99 has a far more comprehensive knowledge of the game mechanics than that of 1999.

A large percentage of the p99 populace will understand from this moment on that grouping with hybrids drastically effects your personal exp gain - that was not true on live for some time. When it became true on live what did Sony do? They fixed it.

[Bumamgar]

You do realize that the XP fixes only made the in-game experience match what has been stated in the FAQ and by the devs since the beginning?

Prior to the fix, Class/Race penalties were broken (specifically, racial penalties/bonuses were being applied to the wrong races, resulting in Ogres actually receiving the XP bonus of Halflings, and Dwarves receiving the XP penalty of Trolls, among other things)

Prior to the fix, the actual percentage of the penalties/bonuses were significantly lower than they should be (instead of a 40% penalty for being a Hybrid, it was a 28% penalty, etc).

Now the in-game penalties match what the players actually THOUGHT they were before (based on the FAQ and player conversations).

[Vexden]

I fully understand this wanting to keep it classic.

What I don't understand is why be so hard headed on keeping something "classic" but allow other things to be different.

Good example is the 9th spell gem, the different / updated client, the new player models that are allowed (server should force client side model detection), the mob pathing updated to where you cannot outrun mobs by using the strafe method. Those are just a few things that are NOT Classic. I think it almost seems a bit hypocritical to pick and choose what you think should be "classic" and what "isn't"

I can't express enough even with this post how grateful I >AM< about the devs making this server the way it has been. This whole thing being brought back has really sparked a new mmorpg love. It just gets very frustrating when certain things do not make sense.

I would think that you could keep the classic feel, without discrimating classes / races by putting a penalty a certain way (that was later changed anyway) to make it to where no one wants to group with them.