Svenn ninja loots a NoS, writes a thread about it.

[Signal]

Originally Posted by Hugmukk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

conveniently right next to us right? How come he didn't stand up and recharm then? And how would you know that if you arent the necro? AND WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU TRYING TO HIDE THAT FACT.

I am not the necro or the rogue...but there was more than you and those 2 in crypt when all this happened. You guys should use see invisi more.

[Byrjun]

Originally Posted by Signal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Only if you lose presence at the camp. The group had presence at the camp the whole time while recovering.

Since you are apparently too lazy to actually look up the rules yourself:

1. Going forward, if you intend to hold or claim a camp, your group must retain presence at that camp. If you have no competition in the zone, you are more than welcome to hold as many as you like. The moment another party wants to claim a camp and you are "farming" multiple, you must decide which camp you want and forfeit the ones someone else is interested in. We still expect players to use the courtesy camp check before zerging a room. If there is a full spawn of mobs in a camp room up I think that would be considered not camped. How you pull the camp is up to you, as long as you are able to engage the mobs very shortly after they are spawned.

Let me repeat the important part:

If there is a full spawn of mobs in a camp room up I think that would be considered not camped. How you pull the camp is up to you, as long as you are able to engage the mobs very shortly after they are spawned.

An FD necro is not a "presence." If that was the case, I could bring a level 1 rogue down to frenzy and just sit there 24/7 telling everyone they have to leave because I'm camping the frenzy with my "presence." If you're not killing any mobs in the crypt for over an hour, you're not camping crypt.

The most interesting aspect of this whole argument is that the group who wiped in crypt was Full Circle. A couple weeks ago, I grouped with some Full Circle people at crypt. I spent over 16 hours and didn't win anything besides a level 60 cleric spell, which I gave to the cleric in the group (from Full Circle). A couple days later I was in crypt again. We went outside for maybe 5-10 minutes to bring someone else in, and Full Circle rushes straight into crypt from NG and claims that since we left for 5 minutes they now owned the camp. I didn't feel like arguing with them, but I found it interesting that the very cleric who I graciously donated a valuable spell to just days before was now trying to rule lawyer his way into a camp that I already had claim to. And now this shit comes up to make them look even worse.

So in summation, let me just try to get Full Circle's version of camp rules straight:

If you are in Full Circle, you get to claim any camp you want as soon as anyone physically leaves for more than a couple seconds.

If you are in Full Circle and you wipe at a camp, you still have claim to the camp no matter how long it takes you to recover, even if it takes hours.

If you are not in Full Circle, a GM will be petitioned to make weirdo calls against you that directly conflict with the server rules that are clearly printed in black and white on these very forums.

Did I get that right?

[Signal]

Originally Posted by Byrjun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since you are apparently too lazy to actually look up the rules yourself:



Let me repeat the important part:



An FD necro is not a "presence." If that was the case, I could bring a level 1 rogue down to frenzy and just sit there 24/7 telling everyone they have to leave because I'm camping the frenzy with my "presence." If you're not killing any mobs in the crypt for over an hour, you're not camping crypt.

The most interesting aspect of this whole argument is that the group who wiped in crypt was Full Circle. A couple weeks ago, I grouped with some Full Circle people at crypt. I spent over 16 hours and didn't win anything besides a level 60 cleric spell, which I gave to the cleric in the group (from Full Circle). A couple days later I was in crypt again. We went outside for maybe 5-10 minutes to bring someone else in, and Full Circle rushes straight into crypt from NG and claims that since we left for 5 minutes they now owned the camp. I didn't feel like arguing with them, but I found it interesting that the very cleric who I graciously donated a valuable spell to just days before was now trying to rule lawyer his way into a camp that I already had claim to. And now this shit comes up to make them look even worse.

So in summation, let me just try to get Full Circle's version of camp rules straight:

If you are in Full Circle, you get to claim any camp you want as soon as anyone physically leaves for more than a couple seconds.

If you are in Full Circle and you wipe at a camp, you still have claim to the camp no matter how long it takes you to recover, even if it takes hours.

If you are not in Full Circle, a GM will be petitioned to make weirdo calls against you that directly conflict with the server rules that are clearly printed in black and white on these very forums.

Did I get that right?

As proven by even members of the 2nd group now...There was no "FD Necro" when they arrived. The camp also wasn't fully spawned. Mobs were being cleared when they showed up. Keep up in the thread A-team rule lawyer number 12. Mobs were being engaged and killed in the camp when the 2nd group arrived. As soon as the 2nd group arrived and started engaging other mobs in the camp a petition was put in for a GM.....and the first group simply waited for a response. Cliff notes for the lazy.

[Signal]

Originally Posted by Byrjun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since you are apparently too lazy to actually look up the rules yourself:



Let me repeat the important part:



An FD necro is not a "presence." If that was the case, I could bring a level 1 rogue down to frenzy and just sit there 24/7 telling everyone they have to leave because I'm camping the frenzy with my "presence." If you're not killing any mobs in the crypt for over an hour, you're not camping crypt.

The most interesting aspect of this whole argument is that the group who wiped in crypt was Full Circle. A couple weeks ago, I grouped with some Full Circle people at crypt. I spent over 16 hours and didn't win anything besides a level 60 cleric spell, which I gave to the cleric in the group (from Full Circle). A couple days later I was in crypt again. We went outside for maybe 5-10 minutes to bring someone else in, and Full Circle rushes straight into crypt from NG and claims that since we left for 5 minutes they now owned the camp. I didn't feel like arguing with them, but I found it interesting that the very cleric who I graciously donated a valuable spell to just days before was now trying to rule lawyer his way into a camp that I already had claim to. And now this shit comes up to make them look even worse.

So in summation, let me just try to get Full Circle's version of camp rules straight:

If you are in Full Circle, you get to claim any camp you want as soon as anyone physically leaves for more than a couple seconds.

If you are in Full Circle and you wipe at a camp, you still have claim to the camp no matter how long it takes you to recover, even if it takes hours.

If you are not in Full Circle, a GM will be petitioned to make weirdo calls against you that directly conflict with the server rules that are clearly printed in black and white on these very forums.

Did I get that right?

But to requote you again... I am not affiliated with Full Circle in any way. I did see what happened and it was an obvious attempt at camp stealing. They knew I was there because I had asked earlier for them to let me know when a spot was open. I also helped some on their recovery. SO I know for a fact they were back at camp clearing mobs when the other group ran in. Personally I would hope the ones doing it would have gotten a harsher penalty than "Be on your merry way". Part of the problem on this server is letting people off lightly for antics like this.

This goes for the same against them but I would ask.... Was a presence in camp by one of your group members the whole time ? Now that does sound like a dick move by them reguardless.... but there is a difference between "having a presence in camp and clearing mobs"....Than "Being out of camp killing mobs elsewhere to get another group member". But I agree with ya I wouldn't take the camp from ya if you explained it to me that way. As stated earlier though there are douchebags and there are good people on this server. You can choose which to be.

[Signal]

It is good to see that so many A-team members support overrunning someones camp that they are killing in and taking it though...While they are there killing mobs in the camp. Guess that is their version of doing things the right way. Must come from being elite and such according to them.

[dmann253]

Why don't you fucking malajusted kids try sending some tells.

"Hey you guys camping crypt?"
"ya"
"well I don't see anyone down there whats going on"
"Necro, Rogue are down there still clearing some, but we are cr'ing the rest"
"ah ok good luck, send me a tell when you guys are leaving if you would"
"sure np"


Common sense and even moreso common cortousy on this server are just way to fucking rare.

[Hugmukk]

Originally Posted by Signal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I also helped some on their recovery. SO I know for a fact they were back at camp clearing mobs when the other group ran in

So you were there with them and didn't drag the clerics corpse so the necro could rez it? Obviously you are a rogue because a) we need see invis to see you which means your not IVU b) you can't move around freely without IVU down there unless your a rogue.

So how come you didn't drag the cleric for them? and the rest of their group? it all sounds way to sketchy to be true. You just let them fend for themselves and didn't make yourself known to us.

[Signal]

Originally Posted by Hugmukk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you were there with them and didn't drag the clerics corpse so the necro could rez it? Obviously you are a rogue because a) we need see invis to see you which means your not IVU b) you can't move around freely without IVU down there unless your a rogue.

So how come you didn't drag the cleric for them? and the rest of their group? it all sounds way to sketchy to be true. You just let them fend for themselves and didn't make yourself known to us.

Wrong again...More than rogues do have HIDE. Keep guessing though.

[Signal]

Are you a noob to everquest seriously >? lol I thought you were pretending to be dumb.

[Hugmukk]

Damn I wasn't sure at first, but I did get trolled. Good job sir