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Old 06-29-2010, 02:46 PM
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Who cares what people say in group get over it or don't read it. You're like an old lady bitching that that they say "ass" on tv. Also weed is not a drug kthxbye.
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Old 06-29-2010, 02:47 PM
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Have you seen what they feed kids for school lunch? Sure, let's just all pretend it's bad parenting and legislate obesity as a chronic, incurable disease and pretend that diabetes in children under ten occurs normally.
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Old 06-29-2010, 02:49 PM
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you didn't have a dependence on sugar, you just enjoyed it.
Sugar is addictive. I've never read anything regarding the matter, I'm just speaking from experience here. A few months ago I started plumping up a little and decided I needed to stop drinking pop (soda) altogether. I quit cold turkey and drank a couple cups of coffee each day to quell what I assumed was just a caffeine addiction. After a day or two, the temptation to eat/drink something really sugary was incredible. The thought of a Gatorade (something I never drink that isn't even that sugary) made me tremble with desire. I just about went insane thinking about sugary foodstuffs. I eventually managed to control my sugar cravings through withdrawal with a glass of milk daily. There are a lot of legal addictive stimulants out there, sugar and caffeine included.

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Old 06-29-2010, 02:53 PM
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Im certainly not an expert on it, but looking at my brother behave this way, it looks like an addiction to me. I looked it up and it seems its still on debate wether or not sugar addiction is a reality.
in order to be an addiction there has to be a physical dependency. there's a huge difference between needing something and craving something.

if you crave sugar, you can ignore the craving and you'll be fine.

compare this to caffeine, which will give you a headache if you ignore your cravings (and you're addicted).
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Old 06-29-2010, 02:55 PM
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Sugar is addictive. I've never read anything regarding the matter, I'm just speaking from experience here. A few months ago I started plumping up a little and decided I needed to stop drinking pop (soda) altogether. I quit cold turkey and drank a couple cups of coffee each day to quell what I assumed was just a caffeine addiction. After a day or two, the temptation to eat/drink something really sugary was incredible. The thought of a Gatorade (something I never drink that isn't even that sugary) made me tremble with desire. I just about went insane thinking about sugary foodstuffs. I eventually managed to control my sugar cravings through withdrawal with a glass of milk daily. There are a lot of legal addictive stimulants out there, sugar and caffeine included.
if you start cutting out sugar completely of course your body is going to react, our entire body chemistry is based on using sugar for energy. you experienced a sugar craving because your body needed sugar.

also milk contains lactose which is a sugar so it would make sense that drinking milk would reduce the craving.

edit: http://www.rps.psu.edu/probing/sugar.html
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Old 06-29-2010, 02:57 PM
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I don't really care either way on the pot issue irl...when i was kid i smoked pot a few times...stopped on my own because i just grew out of it when i got to college...i don't rlly consider it a moral issue in and of itself, etc...so don't put me in on either side of the argument.

what IS interesting to me is that by FAR on this server more than any other I have encountered tons of people talking about smoking pot. I don't recall that back from when i played EQ before on live. i don't recall it in any other game...so i have wondered why it is so different here. it is extremely noticable, in almost every single pug grp i find at least one guy claims to be stoned, or needs to take an afk to smoke a joint, etc...

I wonder if ppl just talk more openly about it, or if the demographic of the game has changed, or more people in general just smoke pot now. something has changed...and it is curious.

i don't take either side on it, but it is interesting.
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if you start cutting out sugar completely of course your body is going to react, our entire body chemistry is based on using sugar for energy. you experienced a sugar craving because your body needed sugar.

also milk contains lactose which is a sugar so it would make sense that drinking milk would reduce the craving.

edit: http://www.rps.psu.edu/probing/sugar.html
Your body never needs processed sucrose. Not a single grain.
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:04 PM
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if you start cutting out sugar completely of course your body is going to react, our entire body chemistry is based on using sugar for energy. you experienced a sugar craving because your body needed sugar.

also milk contains lactose which is a sugar so it would make sense that drinking milk would reduce the craving.

edit: http://www.rps.psu.edu/probing/sugar.html
your body needs sugar of some kind to function. if all sugars (like everything else these are chemicals) were removed from your system you would die very quickly.

what i think is being discussed is refined sugars...which you can live without. like any chemical that your system is sensitive to, you will notice a difference if the level in your system suddenly changes. anyone who has gone a few weeks without any sweets (i.e. refined sugars) can tell you what happens if you suddenly eat a piece of cake...you will feel a rush.

i'm not sure that i would clump all chemicals into the same definition as drugs, though depending on the definition you use it could easily be construed that way.

when i say "drugs" i'm talking about (mostly) pharmaceutical drugs that are recognized by the gov't and illegal drugs on the schedules of banned substances. Maybe i would stretch that to include some over the counter supplements you can buy at any GNC, like Kava-Kava, etc.

when someone calls themselves straight-edge that means to me that they are following the letter of the law to "T". So, anyone who uses illegal drugs (though they may be wonderful people) are not someone i would call straight-edge.
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Your body never needs processed sucrose. Not a single grain.
already been covered. sucrose is metabolized into fructose and glucose very easily, which the body does need.

yeah you can get your sugars elsewhere. there's a lot of foods we can do without but that doesn't make them a drug.
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:08 PM
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already been covered. sucrose is metabolized into fructose and glucose very easily, which the body does need.

there's a lot of foods we can do without but that doesn't make them a drug.
There are zero health benefits to consuming extrinsic sucrose. Zero.

It. Is. Not. Food.
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