Half of FE's monks are suspended, Loses Trak when they have to compete

[Tiggles]

Lots of sad/bad FE in this thread.

[Alovia]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Being serious, with you watching what did you observe if you are allowed to comment?

I have already discussed this with the Officers of the guilds.

[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by Servellious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im putting my money on Knix, the general lack of understanding of game mechanics, and the raging in our guild chat sold me on this.

I have never given guides a problem or bitched and complained to them, but what she did and said in our guild chat today just totally blew what ever cover she had.

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[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by Alovia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have already discussed this with the Officers of the guilds.

Hey Alovia could you log in and take the sev loot from FE? We got FTE but there being jerks.

[Shinko]

Tiggles go away trying 2 hard

[Scowlie]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You pull you wipe twice
You train when TMO goes to attempt.

Oh, is that what happened? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If your guild didn't train our raid to begin with, we would have killed Trak. You don't think it's obvious when your entire raid prepares opposite of the ledge and you have two people in TMO peering around the corner before you have the numbers to even engage? Then suddenly Trak trains on top of our entire raid... Anything after that fact is moot. Your entire raid should be suspended for that bullshit. Congrats on getting away with YET another train.

Also, good job trying to steal Sev on our engage. I'm sure your guild has already entered 10 petitions crying about it.

Pathetic.

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by Scowlie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, is that what happened? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If your guild didn't train our raid to begin with, we would have killed Trak. You don't think it's obvious when your entire raid prepares opposite of the ledge and you have two people in TMO peering around the corner before you have the numbers to even engage? Then suddenly Trak trains on top of our entire raid... Anything after that fact is moot. Your entire raid should be suspended for that bullshit. Congrats on getting away with YET another train.

Also, good job trying to steal Sev on our engage. I'm sure your guild has already entered 10 petitions crying about it.

Pathetic.

I don't read ANYTHING you post, i dont Ignore you because sometimes you post gifs I like but other then that I skip.

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The reason why Trak came out of his lair and AE'd us is crucial. That is: was it because of a failed engage or a train?

TMO has to claim they planned to kill Trak with the numbers they engaged with or claim they were stalling for more to get on if they are claiming it was not an intentional train. As the first one is out, I would think they were trying to stall.

My question is...if a stall turns into a train of the sort that happened, and if a GM is present as Alovia said she was, why is it that no action was taken?

If TMO engaged trak with 12, and then subsequently trained trakanon out of the lair into the FE raid force, why is TMO not suspended? Especially with a GM eyewitness.....and fraps to prove that trak was trained out fo the lair.

FROM ROGAEN CONCERNING GLOBAL SERVER RULES:

Training
Training can be defined as the intentional manipulation of NPC Placement and Aggro in such a way that causes it to attack another player that it wouldn't have otherwise if at it's normal spawn location. The most basic form of this is "dumping" mobs near another player or party and escaping via a form of teleportation or death. Intentional or not, this is against the rules. This rule is not limited to the basic example given, as there are many different forms of training players will use. You take all responsibility for mobs that you aggro. If you are trying to escape from a pack of NPC's but there is another group in your way, do not run through them. Even if your intention is not to train them, it would inevitable cause this and you may be subject to disciplinary. It is recommended that you take the death (Your responsibility for aggroing the mobs) and request a resurrection from nearby players.

If you happen to accidentally train a group of players, please immedietely notify the staff via /petition that you have done so by accident. Apologize to the players in question, and assist them with any recovery needed. If the staff hears about your train before you tell them, intention is no longer an excuse. (Repeated unintentional trains will still result in disciplinary action).

source: http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2651

From the evidence gathered so far, tmo was responsible for trakanon + juggs that trained FE.

TMO had Trakanon "engaged" (they actually engaged protector and led trakanon around the corner to agro FE raid force) and subsequently trained another raid force with the mob during the engage.

These facts havent been in question. TMO agroed trakanon first and a raid force was trained as a result of their agro.

[Scowlie]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't read ANYTHING you post, i dont Ignore you because sometimes you post gifs I like but other then that I skip.

It's ok, we can be friends some day.

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[Metallikus]

also concerning unintentional trains still resulting in disciplinary action, how many fucking times can you get away with "accidental" trains before actual action is taken? gtfo with your accidents already and gms covering for tmo with "their puller was new and didnt know which way to go" as an excuse for kiting dragons.