Any Young-Earth Creationists? - Page 9

Taresh · #81 02-28-2013, 05:47 AM

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Not paying for shaman sex change.

think of the pandas

Hailto · #82 02-28-2013, 06:39 AM

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Well actually everything I've said is already proven fact but just like every other controversial proven fact in history, the majority is always against it until one day it just becomes common sense. In fact let me give you a perfect example of how people like you are like a boulder for the human race that intelligent people like me have to carry.

So this guy discovers a way to save the lives of literally millions of people but because he couldn't explain it in a scientific manner, he was discredited and driven out of the medical community only to be imprisoned and taken to an asylum where he was beaten to death. Then literally just a few years after his death, Louis Pasteur discovered that germs were in fact the cause of infection and could prove it scientifically.

Soon, the medical community had no choice but to face the reality of the situation at which point they were like "lolz bro, turned out you were right about those germs, totally didn't mean to destroy your life, have you locked up and sent to an asylum. Oh and the whole beating you to death thing, again, my bad bro lolz".

Call me a troll, call me whatever you like. You're those same exact scum bags, just 200 years in the future. People thought Greek mythology was just that...a myth. Until the "mythical" City of Troy was actually discovered in this thing called "reality" just several decades ago, proving that not only Greek mythology, but all mythology, might actually be based on fact. Oh, how was the city of Troy discovered you ask? Well wouldn't you know, the guy actually took the books seriously and followed the clues in them! LOL What a fucking moron, right? Well guess what retards, he's now one of the most famous archaeologists of all time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVBzFjWywtg

Nail in the coffin right there really. Just a matter of time before the rest of mythology is proven to be based on fact and real history.

So tell me what advancement us athiestic dumb asses are holding back. You're making a pretty bold claim with that comparison. What is the religious world currently offering the community that science is scoffing at?

Lorraine · #83 02-28-2013, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Call me a troll, call me whatever you like. You're those same exact scum bags, just 200 years in the future. People thought Greek mythology was just that...a myth. Until the "mythical" City of Troy was actually discovered in this thing called "reality" just several decades ago, proving that not only Greek mythology, but all mythology, might actually be based on fact. Oh, how was the city of Troy discovered you ask? Well wouldn't you know, the guy actually took the books seriously and followed the clues in them! LOL What a fucking moron, right? Well guess what retards, he's now one of the most famous archaeologists of all time.

Nail in the coffin right there really. Just a matter of time before the rest of mythology is proven to be based on fact and real history.

Θα μπορούσα να σου εξηγήσω ποιός ακριβώς είναι ο ορισμός της λέξης "Μυθολογία" αλλά δεν θα έχει κανένα νόημα σε αυτό το σημείο που έχεις φτάσει.

What? It's all greek to you, you say?
#dealwithit

Ravager · #84 02-28-2013, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How is there no evidence? There is so much evidence that I seriously can't believe that people still don't believe in God in 2013. With the vast amount of scientific knowledge we possess you would think it should be obvious by the 2nd grade. DNA is literally the smoking gun for God, it seriously can't make his existence anymore obvious.

The first of every living thing had to have been created by a being that is not bound by the laws of the physical universe. According to the scientific law known as the law of biogenesis, all living things MUST come from another living thing of the same type. For example, cows will always produce more cows and cows will only ever come from other cows. Same goes for every single living thing from dogs to cats and the entire human race.

Think about it logically, all infants REQUIRE the care of their parents. Who then cared for the first infant? Also, where did it come from if it's parents don't exist? This is more evidence for God since according to the very laws of science, life shouldn't technically even be possible. I'm not invoking God simply because "I don't know how, therefor God did it". I'm invoking God because based on the evidence, the only way some things are possible is if they were done by a being capable of doing anything.

How about an analogy maybe? We all play EQ. It is a world that was created, in this case the creators name is Verant instead of God. Nothing in this world happened randomly or by chance, it is all the product of intelligent thought. Literally every single pixel and every single line of code that governs the actions within the game were consciously chosen and created. Also consider that a great deal of effort is made in an attempt to reflect the actual world.

It is also easy to see that these creators have power over the world that a normal player does not. Just like God is able to manipulate the physical laws of the universe, GM's are able to manipulate the laws of Norrath. They can rez without being a cleric and they can port to any location in the world with a simple command. Why then is it so hard to believe that God too would have powers over the physical universe and is not bound by it's laws? This is a perfect example of how things such as miracles are possible such as life beginning or Jesus walking on water etc.

So here you are, sitting in a virtual world that attempts to mimic the real world and we know for a fact that this world was 100% entirely the product of intelligent beings. Yet you can't grasp the idea that the real world too, was the product of an intelligent being?

So sure, Hitchins is right, what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, however I simply do not think this quote has any relevance since I am clearly providing evidence to support my claim.

And this is why your arguments can never be rational. You only ever consider one possibility so you can never be truly objective. You twist facts to suit the theory instead of the theory to suit the facts. If you were truly objective you'd say "Also, where did it come from if it's parents don't exist? This is more evidence for God since according to the very laws of science, life shouldn't technically even be possible.... OR". You are missing the "or". When you run into something that can't be explained, you don't simply explain it away with magic and call that logic. You gather evidence and adjust your theories.

Ravager · #85 02-28-2013, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty pathetic how you dumb ass atheists proclaim to be intelligent and yet the best argument you can supply consists of posting gif's or logic consisting of exactly what you accuse creationists as using. Just know that you're literally holding back the entire human race with your blatant stupidity.

Actually the gods of ancient mythology were real people that actually existed and still do. They are simply very advanced beings that were called gods because of their technology. They too however were created by God but this is a completely different discussion. I will say this tho, there is an ancient text by Apollo stating that the gods were ordered by Jesus to leave the planet, several hundred years before he was born. So how does Apollo...a supposedly fake person, know about or even have a conversation with someone who hasn't even been born yet? Unless of course Apollo was a real person and Jesus really is who he says he is.

Invoking God has nothing to do with a need to explain but rather that God is the only logical explanation. There's only two possibilities for how life began and only one of them is logical. Either everything created itself from nothing, for no reason and inanimate matter some how magically turned itself into complex constructs for again, no reason or purpose, just total random chance coincidences. Or an intelligent being designed and then created the universe for a reason and for a purpose and they took inanimate matter and formed it into complex things like stars, planets and eventually life.

So there you go. The only two possible ways the universe could exist, of which is not possible. Has zero to do with semantics.

Now you tipped your troll hand.

Alarti0001 · #86 02-28-2013, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well actually everything I've said is already proven fact but just like every other controversial proven fact in history, the majority is always against it until one day it just becomes common sense. In fact let me give you a perfect example of how people like you are like a boulder for the human race that intelligent people like me have to carry.

So this guy discovers a way to save the lives of literally millions of people but because he couldn't explain it in a scientific manner, he was discredited and driven out of the medical community only to be imprisoned and taken to an asylum where he was beaten to death. Then literally just a few years after his death, Louis Pasteur discovered that germs were in fact the cause of infection and could prove it scientifically.

Soon, the medical community had no choice but to face the reality of the situation at which point they were like "lolz bro, turned out you were right about those germs, totally didn't mean to destroy your life, have you locked up and sent to an asylum. Oh and the whole beating you to death thing, again, my bad bro lolz".

Call me a troll, call me whatever you like. You're those same exact scum bags, just 200 years in the future. People thought Greek mythology was just that...a myth. Until the "mythical" City of Troy was actually discovered in this thing called "reality" just several decades ago, proving that not only Greek mythology, but all mythology, might actually be based on fact. Oh, how was the city of Troy discovered you ask? Well wouldn't you know, the guy actually took the books seriously and followed the clues in them! LOL What a fucking moron, right? Well guess what retards, he's now one of the most famous archaeologists of all time.

Nail in the coffin right there really. Just a matter of time before the rest of mythology is proven to be based on fact and real history.

The tide comes in.... the tide goes out... what more proof do you need !

Rhambuk · #87 02-28-2013, 11:40 AM

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The tide comes in.... the tide goes out... what more proof do you need !

The moon = god

Hitchens · #88 02-28-2013, 12:50 PM

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Actually the gods of ancient mythology were real people that actually existed and still do. They are simply very advanced beings that were called gods because of their technology. They too however were created by God but this is a completely different discussion. I will say this tho, there is an ancient text by Apollo stating that the gods were ordered by Jesus to leave the planet, several hundred years before he was born. So how does Apollo...a supposedly fake person, know about or even have a conversation with someone who hasn't even been born yet? Unless of course Apollo was a real person and Jesus really is who he says he is.

Rhambuk · #89 02-28-2013, 12:55 PM

lol that remix is a riot

Zadrian · #90 02-28-2013, 01:28 PM

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You can tell a poorly thought out argument when no reasoning is provided with a statement. I didn't come here simply stating "God did it". However, you come here and say "evolution did it". How is this any different then what you claim I'm doing? Bit hypocritical don't you think?

Providing a link that offers nothing but speculations and assumptions doesn't really count either. The whole article starting with the very title itself is laced with "could have's" and "might be's" and "if's".

You also can't just state "evolution" because there is no known mechanism in which evolution can cause inanimate matter to become alive. There is also no evidence that one species can become another entirely different species. Evolution contradicts the law of biogenesis and the laws of thermodynamics. You cannot have a scientific theory that contradicts a scientific law. Laws are undeniable scientific facts that are 100% consistent. Evolution by definition is unscientific.

Sorry, I've just given up on this fruitless nonsense. You can't have a discussion if you are unwilling to consider other people's ideas.

Anyway, point of the article wasn't to prove anything, it was to give you food for thought. You were speaking about DNA concepts so assuredly, which is impossible because, as you can see, there are still discoveries being made.