Drama

[nicemace]

protip: calm lasts 3 mins and works on all the mobs in the king room.

calm everything and charm bok then kill roaming dar in the hallway. once dar is dead re-calm and pull king to hall, control dmg on pet with whirl. dont need to zone/camp to let pet heal.

[Stepy]

Reading those logs it was apparent they were patient and gave plenty of opportunity I believe they were sincere in letting the chanter having her shot. It seems the chanter was having a little trouble with spawns and kept zoning despite claiming to have broken the camp. It was nice of the to give her a shot at winning the sword and then later gave it to her anyway, happy selling. Aside from showing the chanter plenty of courtesy she still came here and started a flame anyway.

[Trimm]

Originally Posted by Shewz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Autum gave me the sword, so, guess it's all null and void at this point.

Originally Posted by Shewz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Autum gave me the sword, so, guess it's all null and void at this point.

Originally Posted by Shewz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Autum gave me the sword, so, guess it's all null and void at this point.

Originally Posted by Shewz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Autum gave me the sword, so, guess it's all null and void at this point.

[Nocte]

Originally Posted by Stepy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reading those logs it was apparent they were patient and gave plenty of opportunity I believe they were sincere in letting the chanter having her shot. It seems the chanter was having a little trouble with spawns and kept zoning despite claiming to have broken the camp. It was nice of the to give her a shot at winning the sword and then later gave it to her anyway, happy selling. Aside from showing the chanter plenty of courtesy she still came here and started a flame anyway.

I have to admit that this is the opposite reaction I expected from my posted screenshots. I think my group threw out integrity and acted like a bunch of greedy children because the item in question was valuable.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Looks like the group were mindful of the rules the entire time and careful not to violate them. Shews gave up the camp when he zoned. Just like they gave up the camp when they left it and Shews moved in. And the whole ridiculous BS was making Nocte sick to his stomach, and I don't blame him.

Douchebag move to claim the camp after the enchanter zones?

Douchebag move for a solo caster to claim the camp after a group wipes and is doing CR?

Douchebag move to reneg on an agreement made by an enchanter who had the rights to the camp who then lost those rights when he zoned?

Douchebag move for a solo caster to go after phat lewts he can't even use over a group that I presume contains at least one melee who can?

Douchebaggery is all relative and subjective.

So we're left with the camping rules -- at least those can be quantified objectively. Lesson learned: if you want to maintain your camp, do not zone. Do anything BUT zone. Otherwise, you lose your camp. Unless the new made-up rule now is groups can zone out ad infinitum and retain their camps without being present at the camp.

[soup]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Looks like the group were mindful of the rules the entire time and careful not to violate them. Shews gave up the camp when he zoned. Just like they gave up the camp when they left it and Shews moved in. And the whole ridiculous BS was making Nocte sick to his stomach, and I don't blame him.

Douchebag move to claim the camp after the enchanter zones?

Douchebag move for a solo caster to claim the camp after a group wipes and is doing CR?

Douchebag move to reneg on an agreement made by an enchanter who had the rights to the camp who then lost those rights when he zoned?

Douchebag move for a solo caster to go after phat lewts he can't even use over a group that I presume contains at least one melee who can?

Douchebaggery is all relative and subjective.

So we're left with the camping rules -- at least those can be quantified objectively. Lesson learned: if you want to maintain your camp, do not zone. Do anything BUT zone. Otherwise, you lose your camp. Unless the new made-up rule now is groups can zone out ad infinitum and retain their camps without being present at the camp.

Even Nocte, the cleric from the group, is saying his group acted like greedy children because the item in question was valuable, but you're STILL going on with this "HE ZONED HE LOST IT" shit.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Trimm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Originally Posted by Shewz View Post
Autum gave me the sword, so, guess it's all null and void at this point.

I wouldn't call it null and void... I never want anyone in any of my groups feel obligated to hand over loot some solo caster is trying to extort out of us after they zone and give up rights to the camp.

Shewz shouldn't have the sword. He gave up rights to the camp when he zoned. He couldn't fulfill his end of the "deal" because he lost rights to the camp, the very rights which would allow him to fulfill his end of the agreement.

[President]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even Nocte, the cleric from the group, is saying his group acted like greedy children because the item in question was valuable, but you're STILL going on with this "HE ZONED HE LOST IT" shit.

The same thing can be said about Shewz. A greedy child trying to take a camp from a group CR'ing that has melee in the group that needs the item.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even Nocte, the cleric from the group, is saying his group acted like greedy children because the item in question was valuable, but you're STILL going on with this "HE ZONED HE LOST IT" shit.

Nocte's subjective opinion is his own. I'm going by the facts.

[soup]

Originally Posted by President [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The same thing can be said about Shewz. A greedy child trying to take a camp from a group CR'ing that has melee in the group that needs the item.

That's good and dandy that some random person on the forums who wasn't involved is saying that, but let's go over it again.

Nocte, the cleric from the group in question, said he felt his group members were throwing integrity out the window and acting like greedy children. He has every reason to be biased in favor of the group, and he still says that. He was there from start to finish, saw every bit of group chat, etc. He's in a FAR better position to say how people were acting than either you or I are.