Black Sock Down: Helicopter<FE> crashes and burns cheating for FTE

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thats fine; you need to stop being such a dipshit, however, and try to understand that for many people there is a huge gray area between between what is considered a technological advantage of having a fancier and more expensive piece of hardware and enabling software capabilities through it that would otherwise be deemed inappropriate for given situations. There are many, many examples of the mere addition of more modern hardware giving advantages to people over others who do not have them - to make it seem like it is self evident which is cheating and which isnt just shows how desperate you are to find any dirt possible on the guild that almost clean sweeped you outside of VP this week.

Instead of taking this approach, you and your circle jerk choose to leap like fucking animals at the first scent of anything that makes you look better than an FE member. Not only that, you generalize it to try and attack FE as a whole. You really think people are stupid enough to not see through this?

If it is not allowed, it is not allowed; it will not be used, and will be punished. Myu is not going to be punished for something that he did not know, however...from this point on, everyone should know.

Originally Posted by Eccezan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

<Forceful Entry> promotes cheating, training, and knowingly harbor's known cheaters.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Godefroi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thebest is a banned member for MQ, labelling FE for a 3 days suspension because a member was spamming temp flux, really ?

Lol [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I must say the spin you guys carry out shows a lot of frustration and anger though, I'm glad you're letting that out !

1.) thebest is not banned
2.) thebest is not a tmo member
Can you prove your allegations. We can prove hellicopter was botting.

[Godefroi]

Originally Posted by Eccezan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

<Forceful Entry> promotes cheating, training, and knowingly harbor's known cheaters.

TMO Cheats : Thebest banned for MQ, Bouncerr banned for MQ, Jeremy caught 2 boxing.

TMO Trains : Dosxx Suspended for MQ

TMO gets guild suspended : Zeelot gets TMO suspended by AE'ing a pack of mobs at KC ent

TMO gets guild suspended : Darkdeath's PoS fiasco

Please keep labelling FE anything for spamming buttons and taping their keyboards [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[AenarieFenninRo]

Visceral, you often you make valid and relevant arguments, but more often than that you love to change the conversation and deflect from the issue at hand.

By bringing up issues that occurred in the past, that have already been addressed in numerous threads, it just shows a desperate need to deflect and spin. Its like the old question your mom used to ask you... "if he jumped off a bridge would you do it too?"

I am not condoning, nor attempting to cover up any past indiscretion for any member of any guild by these statements, I am simply saying that your ability to argue logically is impeded by doing this type of thing.

If its a battle you're not going to win, introducing some argument about "but that other guy did something back a year ago" just makes your argument weaker and soon nobody will care about your ability to make relevant and salient points. Instead, accept that the argument is not to be won, and move along to a new topic.

[Rhambuk]

Didnt the whole cant do afk while play rule come in when mages were afk leveling in oot.

Thought after that they ruled you can't claim a camp or anythjing while afk even if your clearing it.

Anyway wasn't the whole fte change to negate afk fte? if hes still afk and getting fte what was the point of the 3 second spawn change

[Rhambuk]

sounds suspension worthy to me...

[Splorf22]

This whole scenario is so ridiculous.

I was sitting at my computer hitting the keyboard for 1 hour! He wasn't! WHAT A CHEATER!!

I understand the rules are the rules but the whole thing is just mindboggling.

[Loly Taa]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If it is not allowed, it is not allowed; it will not be used, and will be punished. Myu is not going to be punished for something that he did not know, however...from this point on, everyone should know.

It is very clearly not allowed and has been for a very long time. There's even a thread about it located here; http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=60006

That thread it a little over a year and a month old, Myuharin has been playing on this server since at least around when I started in 2010. So he has no excuse saying he didn't know it was wrong.

Let me quote some choice parts of that thread from GM's and developers at the time.

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If your character is doing something, and you're not around to answer, you may find yourself in some precarious situation when you return.

Originally Posted by Secrets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is likely against the rules, and if someone petitions you doing it, you *will* be suspended/banned.

See here:


This would classify as a script that gives you an unfair advantage versus people who do not have the script, and imo, is no different than macroquest macros.
I am sure saying "I was AFK botting my foraging skill" in a petition will not help you either.

That being said, if you are at the keyboard and initiate the keystrokes (IE; G15) that's not something they really have the right to police, as the G15 sends raw input to the computer and there is no way of telling the difference.

If you hit the macro on your keyboard and go afk, though, and they find out... Your account is gone. Pretty simple rules.

If you hit the macro on your keyboard and go afk, though, and they find out... Your account is gone. Pretty simple rules.

If you hit the macro on your keyboard and go afk, though, and they find out... Your account is gone. Pretty simple rules.

If you hit the macro on your keyboard and go afk, though, and they find out... Your account is gone. Pretty simple rules.

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This whole scenario is so ridiculous.

I was sitting at my computer hitting the keyboard for 1 hour! He wasn't! WHAT A CHEATER!!

I understand the rules are the rules but the whole thing is just mindboggling.

it is mind boggling but after 2 years of guilds arguing over the smallest thing to overturn loot rights this is the current raid scene, 2 forces kill it. petition and post in rnf until a ruling is reached, wait 1 week repeat.

[uygi]

Originally Posted by Halfelfbard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"He had his buttons duck taped down" <- bullshit lie which does nothing in EQ w/o a auto program.

Cheating Scum.

Originally Posted by Loly Taa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okay, lets all do an experiment.

Lets go ingame, put an instaclicky on your hotbar and hold down that key.

What happens? The instaclicky fires once, one time, and will not fire again until you key-up and then key-down again.


Nice try on the spin, but he was cheating, you can't "duck tape" buttons down to spam an instaclicky. It is just not possible without hacks. Sorry.

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I tried duct taping my key but it wouldn't repeat keystrokes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This just in, Microsoft Windows 3rd Party Hack
An evildoing player on the Project 1999 server has managed to install stealth hacking "software" that runs invisibly in the background while playing. The "software", an "operating system" known as Microsoft Windows 7 Professional, or W7 in hacker jargon, allows computers to engage in various nefarious activities. "Software" transforms computers from harmless paperweights into dangerous contraptions capable of browsing the internet, viewing audio and video media, word processing, and even adjusting settings such as sound volume, display settings and, unthinkably, altering the behavior of input devices such as mice and keyboards.

http://www.ehow.com/how_7881739_repeat-key-strokes.html

The Microsoft Windows operating system includes a variety of settings designed to allow users to customize the computing experience based on their own needs and tendencies. One area where Windows users can adjust settings is the keyboard. If you find yourself accidentally holding down keyboard keys and having to delete text, you can enable the repeat key stroke function to manage how Windows records your key strokes.