Black Sock Down: Helicopter<FE> crashes and burns cheating for FTE

[Eccezan]

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[Loly Taa]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cute, but addresses nothing.

In the end, whatever I think is cheating or not is irrelevant. What the GMs and staff declare cheating is relevant. If this is considered cheating and/or something to be avoided, then it will not be used in FE.

It is 100% cheating, as it's using third party software (the Logitech G510 keyboard driver software) to run macros while AFK- or it's some entirely different third party piece of software because, well, let me say it again...

YOU CANNOT DUCT TAPE A KEY DOWN AND HAVE IT AUTOFIRE IN EQ WITHOUT THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE.

Show me a keyboard with hardware-provided key repeat. Seriously, that's what you need to produce for this to be anything but blatant cheating.

I just wonder how many of your other members "duct tape" their keys down, or is "duck tape" the name of your third party keyboard macro software?

[Funkutron5000]

Wasn't Jeremy caught two-boxing at some point? Why does he still have a TMO tag? Was it before he was in TMO? If that's the case, why did TMO allow a known cheater into their guild?

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Kinosh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Holy shit I didnt like country music til i heard that song.


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[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by AenarieFenninRo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please list the keyboard that Helicopter was using, show us that it allows for continual pressure to be applied to a button without some software to macro the ability to repeatedly repress the button and we may consider this issue closed.

As is, our team of researchers has yet to find a keyboard that would allow for continual pressure to be placed on a button that would then repeat the action over and over within EQ.

You claim duct tape, ... to pull a line from alarti... prove it.

[quido]

I think that we should disallow other types of tape too: scotch tape, masking tape, electrical tape, tapeworms, tapewurms, etc

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[Godefroi]

Originally Posted by Funkutron5000 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wasn't Jeremy caught two-boxing at some point? Why does he still have a TMO tag? Was it before he was in TMO? If that's the case, why did TMO allow a known cheater into their guild?

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by Loly Taa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is 100% cheating, as it's using third party software (the Logitech G510 keyboard driver software) to run macros while AFK- or it's some entirely different third party piece of software because, well, let me say it again...

YOU CANNOT DUCT TAPE A KEY DOWN AND HAVE IT AUTOFIRE IN EQ WITHOUT THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE.

Show me a keyboard with hardware-provided key repeat. Seriously, that's what you need to produce for this to be anything but blatant cheating.

I just wonder how many of your other members "duct tape" their keys down, or is "duck tape" the name of your third party keyboard macro software?

Thats fine; you need to stop being such a dipshit, however, and try to understand that for many people there is a huge gray area between between what is considered a technological advantage of having a fancier and more expensive piece of hardware and enabling software capabilities through it that would otherwise be deemed inappropriate for given situations. There are many, many examples of the mere addition of more modern hardware giving advantages to people over others who do not have them - to make it seem like it is self evident which is cheating and which isnt just shows how desperate you are to find any dirt possible on the guild that almost clean sweeped you outside of VP this week.

Instead of taking this approach, you and your circle jerk choose to leap like fucking animals at the first scent of anything that makes you look better than an FE member. Not only that, you generalize it to try and attack FE as a whole. You really think people are stupid enough to not see through this?

If it is not allowed, it is not allowed; it will not be used, and will be punished. Myu is not going to be punished for something that he did not know, however...from this point on, everyone should know.

[Eccezan]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thats fine; you need to stop being such a dipshit, however, and try to understand that for many people there is a huge gray area between between what is considered a technological advantage of having a fancier and more expensive piece of hardware and enabling software capabilities through it that would otherwise be deemed inappropriate for given situations. There are many, many examples of the mere addition of more modern hardware giving advantages to people over others who do not have them - to make it seem like it is self evident which is cheating and which isnt just shows how desperate you are to find any dirt possible on the guild that almost clean sweeped you outside of VP this week.

Instead of taking this approach, you and your circle jerk choose to leap like fucking animals at the first scent of anything that makes you look better than an FE member. Not only that, you generalize it to try and attack FE as a whole. You really think people are stupid enough to not see through this?

If it is not allowed, it is not allowed; it will not be used, and will be punished. Myu is not going to be punished for something that he did not know, however...from this point on, everyone should know.

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