Miscellaneous: Venril Sathir aoe tap

[Treats]

More digging on the Riposte thing, seems NPCs and PCs should work the same way. The difference is only between Weapon and Innate procs.

Venril Sathir should definately be able to proc Deadly Lifetap on a Riposte:

Weapon-based procs: CAN fire on a MISS but CANNOT fire on a RIPOSTE.
Innate/Buff-based procs: CANNOT fire on a MISS but CAN fire on a RIPOSTE.
(Proc cannot fire if the Mob Ripostes and Misses)

Proc cannot fire if the Mob Ripostes and Misses? This is kind of difficult, does a Ranger or someone else know any old logs of Flurrying or Rampaging through Weaponshield? (I think I remember this happening but I'm not positive)

This is in line with what I posted earlier:

Weapon procs are calculated per combat round while Innate procs are calculated per hit I believe.

http://www.thesteelwarrior.org/forum...t=11382&page=3

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Found this thread on the Cleric forums too regarding the AE Mez -- Some quest for him? This person could of just been being douchey...

Quest involves making him cast a 30 second aoe stun and 30 second aoe mez...

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1107

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Another guide here:

Strategy 1
Times Implemented: 5
Times Successful: 4
Times Failed: 1
Note: Failed attempt had someone pull aggro off MT which broke down Rune Order/Target, Healed VS from 50% to full life.

Buffs

No resist buffs are needed, Lifetap cannot be resisted. Normal raid buffs are a good idea, but HP buffs aren't needed on those who won't be tanking VS. (It will just feed VS More life if someone screws up and gets aggro).

Potential-tanks or people who have a high potential to get Aggro should have Rune-Line and Bedlam-Line spell prior to pulling.

Melee should always turn on attack only while facing his back. One riposte could mean 1600+ Damage to someone at 1500 life to VS. To put in perspective how important that is, that just negated half a minute of you attacking - and that's assuming you can do 50DPS against VS. (Its probably less)

VS has special aggro rules where Rune V does not pull very much aggro at all; Good thing too, as it would make him exponentially more difficult if this was not the case.

http://nyxxsopenraids.yuku.com/topic/1027#.UIhEManB-uI

Interesting also they note that VS has special aggro rules regarding the Runes.

[Nirgon]

There is also such a thing as lower level aggro that I'm not sure is the case on this server but we'll leave that alone for .. well I think a long time hehe.

After going through everything, I'm going to agree that he should just have a much much higher chance to proc his lifetap on hits and the same with a riposte.

Other than that as long as he resists at least half of the lure spells casted on him, he's in good shape.

What an elaborate ruse the aoe tap was.. I for the life of me cannot explain why he is showing this as a listed ability. We definitely hid behind a wall until it was deemed okay to go in, go figure.

There is definitely a different spawned version of him that gives him the other line of spells.

The bottom line is if he gets through a rune on a double attack, the results should be extremely dramatic.

[Treats]

Bumping this for Kanras!

[Aeolwind]

Few things in here I want to touch on.

Flurry/Rampage didn't bypass weapon shield. We used rangers to position both AOW and Derakor.

VS proc rate should be very high. He was immune to magic & disease iirc, which locked out all slows. Later on when the 'slowable' flag was added, I believe he became non-magic immune & you could cripple/dot him, but not until then.

I remember VS having a pretty high riposte rate, to the point where most classes dropped if they were in range of riposte.

[Samrothstein]

No AoE tap but much higher proc and riposte rate. Special threat rules on rune and lower lvls. Do it.

Lures only but not 100% on those to land. No magic at all.

[Ele]

Can we get confirmation that VS procs on his successful ripos?

[Treats]

Bumping this again, Venril Sathir needs some help here ;/

[Nirgon]

Rename thread to VS riposte/proc rate if a mod would please.

I'll see if I can find parses from fighting him re: his riposte rate.

I found classic combat logs for Trak + Talendor... might be able to find VS..

[Autotune]

Everything I remember reading up about on VS (I never raided on live so had to search around while playing on p99) made it pretty clear that you don't fight him from the front because riposte = life tapped and it was made out to be 100% (tho not probably 100%, obviously high enough that you didn't risk it 70-90% at least).

[Nirgon]

Yeah, if you put a pair of dual wield/double attack rounds in, you'd likely be tapped twice and greased.

Then again, I recall sending people up front of him and using riposte discipline for pretty amazing damage against him if they were deemed skilled (attentive) enough to disengage back to the rear provided they also had rune on them.