Hide/Sneak

[melkezidek]

Originally Posted by Sycho [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Aren't hide and sneak 2 separate skills? My understanding was that hide is for when you are standing still, but breaks when you move. Sneak is for moving around slowly while staying invis. However, since both are skills and can be trained, both can be broken randomly.

Rogues use Sneak and Hide at the same time and Hide does not break. This is only true for rogues.

[Cecily]

They don't randomly break. That's the perk of being a rogue, perma IVU + Invis.

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Practically never happens to me. Sneak first, hide second. Make sure you have both confirmations. AEs break it, trading breaks it, right clicking on corpses breaks it, Xygoz trained on you breaks it, looting breaks it, pickpocketing breaks H/S. Sneak can rarely fail too.

You can trade and maybe pickpocket with sneak on and not break it though if you sneaking/hiding it breaks both.

general turn in comes to mind

[Nirgon]

Yeah, well, racial hide for non-rogues is giving invis to undead which is hella wrong.

[Droog007]

Is it possible that you were getting indifferent cons because of sneak and NOT hide? Then moving into the frontal 90 deg. put you at KOS? Just a thought.

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, well, racial hide for non-rogues is giving invis to undead which is hella wrong.

ooh that is very wrong...

[Hugmukk]

Sneak and hide will never depop themselves, you can try it by finding a safe spot and going afk for as long as you deem necessary.

One of the common mistakes I'm hearing about lately is accidentally right clicking a corpse while moving around. One solution is to /hidecorpse all before adventuring around. The other is just to be more careful and aware of the surroundings.

Personally when I play my rogue and I'm around mobs who really don't care for me, I'll use the toggle between NPC button and then use the C key if I'm unsure about aggro. And try to keep my finger off of the righ mouse button.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ooh that is very wrong...

Yeah good luck linking evidence though :P. Hopefully this is one where Nilbog remembers it from classic and swings his mighty axe.

Using this like a baws to avoid undead right now, shit's classic ain't even mad.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Droog007 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is it possible that you were getting indifferent cons because of sneak and NOT hide? Then moving into the frontal 90 deg. put you at KOS? Just a thought.

First thing I thought of.

[Chloroform]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Practically never happens to me. Sneak first, hide second. Make sure you have both confirmations. AEs break it, trading breaks it, right clicking on corpses breaks it, Xygoz trained on you breaks it, looting breaks it, pickpocketing breaks H/S. Sneak can rarely fail too.

Pretty much if your invis breaks, it usually means you screwed up. I'm not saying it's bug free, but if you're careful.. it's bug free.

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