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Old 02-23-2013, 03:34 AM
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It should.

When you buy a car at an auction thats confirmed to have been siezed by police following a criminal investigation, upon receiving the title you are responsible for any and all things regarding the vehicle you just purchased.

Account trading was not even allowed on live but it is here, folks should just accept the risk of buying an account rather than leveling their own.
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Old 02-23-2013, 03:45 AM
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It should.

When you buy a car at an auction thats confirmed to have been siezed by police following a criminal investigation, upon receiving the title you are responsible for any and all things regarding the vehicle you just purchased.
no.... just no... dont make a statement of fact when you obviously dont know what your talking about. you may confuse people.
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Old 02-23-2013, 03:56 AM
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Ok, so when you buy a car and the transaction is completed, the ownership of said car is transferred to you from whoever owns it at the time. From that point on you are liable for that car and anything inside of it as well as damages caused by the vehicle.

If the car you bought was used to transport firearms or illegal drugs prior to your purchase of the car and you fail to inspect the car prior to purchasing then you are shit out of luck if you are stopped by police and they just happen to find a gun or drugs left over from the previous owner...granted they had the right or consent to search said vehicle to begin with.

I understand such a thing is a rare occurence but it does happen, I just figured it seemed an appropriate comparison to account trading on p99 with all of the cheater accounts being sold off.
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Old 02-23-2013, 04:07 AM
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It should.

When you buy a car at an auction thats confirmed to have been siezed by police following a criminal investigation, upon receiving the title you are responsible for any and all things regarding the vehicle you just purchased.

Account trading was not even allowed on live but it is here, folks should just accept the risk of buying an account rather than leveling their own.
You make it sound like if the previous owner used it in a drive-by, you just murdered 7 people. But yes, if you failed to notice the crate of AK's or the kilo in the trunk, that shit is your problem (or success).
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Old 02-23-2013, 04:16 AM
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this thread sucks drop it.
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Old 02-23-2013, 04:47 AM
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Ok, so when you buy a car and the transaction is completed, the ownership of said car is transferred to you from whoever owns it at the time. From that point on you are liable for that car and anything inside of it as well as damages caused by the vehicle.

If the car you bought was used to transport firearms or illegal drugs prior to your purchase of the car and you fail to inspect the car prior to purchasing then you are shit out of luck if you are stopped by police and they just happen to find a gun or drugs left over from the previous owner...granted they had the right or consent to search said vehicle to begin with.
This is generally incorrect (barring a strict liability regime, and even then possession implies control which you can argue did not exist without knowledge of the contraband's exitence.) In the above example, the purchaser would be exonerated. Possession typically requires intent. Unless the purchaser knew or should have known that contraband was within his possession he would not be guilty of any crime.

Yes, he might be arrested, but the general process will leave him with zero culpability. Kind of like how the purchased account was banned and subsequently unbanned and Eccezan was declared innocent.

As I asked before, should purchasing an account impute the guilt for the seller's crimes to the purchaser? Whether or not purchasing an account should be legal is not the same issue as to whether or not purchasing an account transfers liability from the transgressor to the purchasing party.

In your example you assume that the purchaser would be guilty of smuggling illegal firearms, when such is not the case in real life, nor is it the case here vis a vis purchasing accounts.
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Old 02-23-2013, 11:01 AM
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This is generally incorrect (barring a strict liability regime, and even then possession implies control which you can argue did not exist without knowledge of the contraband's exitence.) In the above example, the purchaser would be exonerated. Possession typically requires intent. Unless the purchaser knew or should have known that contraband was within his possession he would not be guilty of any crime.

Yes, he might be arrested, but the general process will leave him with zero culpability. Kind of like how the purchased account was banned and subsequently unbanned and Eccezan was declared innocent.

As I asked before, should purchasing an account impute the guilt for the seller's crimes to the purchaser? Whether or not purchasing an account should be legal is not the same issue as to whether or not purchasing an account transfers liability from the transgressor to the purchasing party.

In your example you assume that the purchaser would be guilty of smuggling illegal firearms, when such is not the case in real life, nor is it the case here vis a vis purchasing accounts.


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Old 02-23-2013, 11:11 AM
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This thread just drove home the folly of Rants and Flames for me. Here we have Xasten, definitely one of the most thoughtful and well-spoken posters, attempting to reason with Tasslehoff, whom no one will ever accuse of intelligence or even self-awareness. Could there be a more pointless exercise in futility?
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Old 02-23-2013, 11:18 AM
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This thread just drove home the folly of Rants and Flames for me. Here we have Xasten, definitely one of the most thoughtful and well-spoken posters, attempting to reason with Tasslehoff, whom no one will ever accuse of intelligence or even self-awareness. Could there be a more pointless exercise in futility?
I can compare it to when I talk to my cat, I know he doesn't understand me but I feel the need to tell him its dinner time.

I feel Xasten talks to them in the similar manner.
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Old 02-23-2013, 02:25 PM
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qf this games of throne char us too skinny...

not very accurate there meh ;/
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