The better tank, War / SK / Pally?

[eqholmes]

Ranger all the way! But seriously I know my ranger tanks better at 39 than most any sk/pal/war I ever met. Level 50 will be different storey but for leveling up, anyone that has grouped with me would agree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Holmes 50 Necro DA
Gretzky 39 Ranger DA

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Thac0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fullout = Hope to god my procs proc?

Dont get me wrong, when kunark lands Its a whole nother game for melee. Till then being a warrior just means you are slightly more efficent to heal with CH and thats about it.

Palis can agro without breaking mez and root the mob to prevent it from beelineing to the caster and SK's have disease cloud.

Warriors have Taunt (which the former 2 have) and procs (again nothing stops a pali or sk from using procs) and thats it. Hope your procs will save the caster while the mob plays player pingpong in the group (opps missed that taunt since it was out or range when the cleric healed and the mob ran over to the cleric and wacked um).

And heaven help you if your rooted (ghouls/casters) as a warrior cause then someones really gonna get pummled.

By full out i mean an SK spamming disease and a paladin spamming fol / stun rotations, the warrior will STILL pull more threat--that's how high the proc rates are here. This isn't classic proc rates o_O Go on any raid you'll see what I mean.

[Erasong]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Flash of light prevents a mob from moving to your ranged if someone is in melee. If no one is in melee and a mob is blinded it'll run feared. It allows you to blind a mob and haul off and ice comet it on inc, a tank is in ranged and the mob is blinded ~

This ^^. It is SO underrated, or misunderstood. Blind is the single best way to keep mobs off of ranged period. Also something folks havent pointed out. Paladins can multi agro several mobs all without breaking mezes. Something im sure our SK counterparts would give a lot for. As far as threat goes, DC is superior per cast but has a longer c/d then blind. Also i find my stuns out agro blind and when im chaining blind stun stun/repeat cycle, I hang with the very best warriors and SK's for agro gain. Also patching healing myself the same as a druid or shaman can if the CH will be late = priceless.

[Erasong]

Originally Posted by eqholmes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ranger all the way! But seriously I know my ranger tanks better at 39 than most any sk/pal/war I ever met. Level 50 will be different storey but for leveling up, anyone that has grouped with me would agree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Holmes 50 Necro DA
Gretzky 39 Ranger DA

trolling? or just rediculiously uninformed.

[eqholmes]

Well was 90% a joke, since everyone makes fun of rangers. Although I will say I do tank do better than most any tanks I have had in group, but I'm sure that has to do with yaks and fbss and so forth and before yak pro, ebony blades are pretty good for tanking since root owns for tanking.
If your saying that an twinked ranger cant tank better than sk/pal/war then I would disagree from my experiences. Clearly at 45+ I know this is a different storey, but this was about leveling up and tanking......

[Erasong]

Originally Posted by eqholmes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well was 90% a joke, since everyone makes fun of rangers. Although I will say I do tank do better than most any tanks I have had in group, but I'm sure that has to do with yaks and fbss and so forth and before yak pro, ebony blades are pretty good for tanking since root owns for tanking.
If your saying that an twinked ranger cant tank better than sk/pal/war then I would disagree from my experiences. Clearly at 45+ I know this is a different storey, but this was about leveling up and tanking......

makes more sense now. carry on good sir!

[eqholmes]

Originally Posted by Erasong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

makes more sense now. carry on good sir!

Ya make a ranger as my first character!?!?! Must think I like to cut myself too hehe. Proceed with the ranger bashing, I'll help, I made a ranger to take the DT's for my guild! jk ...kinda ...I hope.... sadly probally true ...

[Erasong]

im making a ranger as we speak! seriously...

[VincentVolaju]

So how hard is tanking in EQ? Does it take alot of player skill and know how, or is it pretty easy? Say for a Paladin for example, is it really just auto attack, taunt, and a blind spell? That doesnt seem very hard, but I know nothing about tanking so maybe I am wrong?

[Dersk]

Originally Posted by VincentVolaju [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So how hard is tanking in EQ? Does it take alot of player skill and know how, or is it pretty easy? Say for a Paladin for example, is it really just auto attack, taunt, and a blind spell? That doesnt seem very hard, but I know nothing about tanking so maybe I am wrong?

Holding the opponent's attention is one part, which is generally easy for a paladin or shadowknight. Learning which spells to use isn't too difficult.

Then there's another aspect, which is also trivial, but most people seem incapable of comprehending: positioning.

No amount of AC, max HP, healing, or agro generation will ever redeem a tank that is too self-absorbed to notice the rogue can't backstab because the mob's back is against a wall.