Please people learn how to play pet classes.

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just invis the pet's master. Pet dies. Point across.

[jilena]

In all fairness with levelling both of my chars from 1-50 (necro and cleric) I think I grouped with like 5 enchanters ever? Groups seem to flow pretty well with or without them though admitedly the CC does tend to make it a bit safer. Most enchanters come off as too full of themselves and I always found it hilarious when they would freak out doing sissy ass groups about mobs being mezzed. OH NOES SOMEONE BROKE MEZ ON THE MOB IN THE CAMP I CAN SOLO EXCEPT I HATE SOLOING?!

Regardless, pet control is super fucking easy. Right before every mob dies hit pet back off. Reassist and tell pet to attack again when the tank picks a target. Not fucking rocket science. If the pet has aggro on a mob that is smacking it over and over. Watch the enchanter, when they start glowing and shooting big bright white balls of awesome out of their ass, start hitting back off, hopefully landing it just as the enchanter lands their mez. Or if you are a necro and really nice, root the mob and back your pet off so the enchanter can mez it. La de da. SOOO HARD.

[Vexden]

Originally Posted by jilena [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In all fairness with levelling both of my chars from 1-50 (necro and cleric) I think I grouped with like 5 enchanters ever? Groups seem to flow pretty well with or without them though admitedly the CC does tend to make it a bit safer. Most enchanters come off as too full of themselves and I always found it hilarious when they would freak out doing sissy ass groups about mobs being mezzed. OH NOES SOMEONE BROKE MEZ ON THE MOB IN THE CAMP I CAN SOLO EXCEPT I HATE SOLOING?!

Regardless, pet control is super fucking easy. Right before every mob dies hit pet back off. Reassist and tell pet to attack again when the tank picks a target. Not fucking rocket science. If the pet has aggro on a mob that is smacking it over and over. Watch the enchanter, when they start glowing and shooting big bright white balls of awesome out of their ass, start hitting back off, hopefully landing it just as the enchanter lands their mez. Or if you are a necro and really nice, root the mob and back your pet off so the enchanter can mez it. La de da. SOOO HARD.

Some great stuff there, may I add that you are right most of the time 1-50 dungeons don't really "require" an Enchanter to go through. There are some camps that makes it a lot easier (and especially after the break, you don't need an Enchanter to keep the camps).

I have found though, that when Kunark comes out, Enchanters are almost required for some of the camps. Sebillis can be one, (Yes there are some great monks that may be able to split up some camps).

As far as being full of themselves, I can see how working with the tank and both being in control of the flow on how things are done might make some people get big heads. But on the other hand, I've seen many many clerics full of themsleves because of being able to give back lost xp.

All in all, I have received some positive input, and it is nice to see that there are people that ware willing to take this information for what it is.

[jilena]

Originally Posted by Vexden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As far as being full of themselves, I can see how working with the tank and both being in control of the flow on how things are done might make some people get big heads. But on the other hand, I've seen many many clerics full of themsleves because of being able to give back lost xp.

Yeah this always seems to be like in the level 10 groups where everyone is a nub freaking out like OMG YOU BROKED MY MEZ. And I am like OMG I can solo all 3 of these mobs at the same time! Who cares if the dumbass level 6 warrior broke mez. Are you dying? Close to dying? Then shut the fuck up lol.

[darkblade717]

Originally Posted by Gorgetrapper [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You obviously missed the entire point of the message. You're part of the problem.

My bad, I don't group with scrubs who can't keep their pulls under control :-/

[darkblade717]

Originally Posted by Vexden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, so you read all of that, and you still don't understand? (This is the arguement that the last pet class gave me)

I will explain this (hey I tested it and you are wrong) once.

You can do all the single target testing you want. You can have a mob Mezzed and you try and send the pet, the pet will return "I cannot wake up this mob master". (this works most of the time with single target)

It is when you introduce the multiple mob situation that you run into real problems when you are lazy and just say "it isn't my pet". It is when your pet is already attacking one mob (so its attention is set to do one thing) and then an additional mob comes to piss it off that causes the problem most of the time. Think of it like a 3 year old getting a shot, if you shake something shiney in its face while he or she is getting a shot, most of the time they don't know what is going on.. (example a pet attacking a target), it is after you remove the shiney thing that the 3 year old notices the pain (Pet notices the aggro from the 2nd mob, and then mezzed or not goes and attacks it).

I really don't know how to put it anymore simple.

p.s. There were no 3 year olds harmed in this testing.

I skimmed because I barely ever group with Enchanters and on the rare occasion that I do they're only there for Clarity and haste, most of the time my pet IS the CC because it makes things die faster.

[Coalrymer]

hmm, haven’t had that problem when it comes after me after pet breaking it. but I also play with a druid that snares everything(like a good little cute druid should *pets the druid wolf thing*) /cough... any who. my chanter is almost 30 now have only died when I charm things.... and not paying attention /cough... seems that’s the biggest and most needed attribute of a chanter. ATTENTION SPAN yay... but then again I like watching my druid friend run around like an idiot. Druid/chanter combo is great [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

but uhh... definitely going to start invising people when they don't work their pet right... just got the feeling my chanter is going to be well hated...

[Gorgetrapper]

Originally Posted by darkblade717 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My bad, I don't group with scrubs who can't keep their pulls under control :-/

Originally Posted by darkblade717 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I skimmed because I barely ever group with Enchanters and on the rare occasion that I do they're only there for Clarity and haste, most of the time my pet IS the CC because it makes things die faster.

You're just another terrible pet class and that's pretty much it.

[darkblade717]

Originally Posted by Gorgetrapper [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're just another terrible pet class and that's pretty much it.

lolumad?

[Gorgetrapper]

I should know better to not respond to obvious troll posts who know nothing of what they're talking about.

Good day ma'am.