FE hacks TMO Batphone calls fake Trak, Trak spawns 3 minutes later. - Page 21

Daliant17447 · #**201** 02-08-2013, 06:46 AM

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Daltheb is so fail for not frapsing the mass dive bomb into the hole, that's what made it awesome.

quido · #**202** 02-08-2013, 06:48 AM

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Also...it doesnt matter who is left alive at the end, what matters is who is first on the encounter log of the mobs death as well as the particular context of the fight. If a mob doesnt not reset and you engage, regardless of if the other raid ends up wiping sometime later, it is not yours.

Well I didn't talk to Sirken myself or really discuss it much with my guild, so I don't really know what the issue is here with Trak exactly. I thought at this point though that only sustained engages were considered viable. I thought the disengage thing more applied to like FTE after initial engage DT from Inny or whatever. And on top of that, actually having a force and trying to kill the mob at least a little bit.

Autotune · #**203** 02-08-2013, 07:19 AM

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Also...it doesnt matter who is left alive at the end, what matters is who is first on the encounter log of the mobs death as well as the particular context of the fight. If a mob doesnt not reset and you engage, regardless of if the other raid ends up wiping sometime later, it is not yours.

Each fight is different, hence the importance of the context. Fay is pulled to a spot far far away...that does not mean that you can intercept Fay halfway from a rival guilds puller and lay claim to the kill.

In the same way, a viable strategy for Trakanon is to have individuals with DA and or DA idols run in to take the initial AE and wait for the banishment while the raid prepares itself to engage. For some reason, however, you think it is viable to intercept Trakanon while this is taking place.

Wrong, if your people bum rush and all die hoping that the FTE will carry over, Ephi will most certainly rule that the engage had no merit to actually kill the target. As TMO engaged and killed without anyone from your guild doing so (large time gap for something like this to happen) which means you either thought you lost the FTE or you had no intention of actually engaging.

They've already ruled something similar to this once before (who knows how they will rule it again) but even the encounter logs would show what I just said.

Daliant17447 · #**204** 02-08-2013, 07:23 AM

Lol @ these posts. They've ruled in every which way you can imagine in regards to FTE. All that matters is how that particular GM is feeling that day.

Autotune · #**205** 02-08-2013, 07:24 AM

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Lol @ these posts. They've ruled in every which way you can imagine in regards to FTE. All that matters is how that particular GM is feeling that day.

Correction, it's all about how YOU make them feel that day [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

baramur · #**206** 02-08-2013, 07:55 AM

Sounds like option had agro and was going to position mob for engage, and tmo went ahead and engaged preventing Fe from positioning trak into a favorable position to engage, thus interfering with options pull. Fe had fte its tmo responsibility to not engage until wipe or reset, not Fe responsibility to engage early before positioned.

bluejam · #**207** 02-08-2013, 08:01 AM

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Lol @ these posts. They've ruled in every which way you can imagine in regards to FTE. All that matters is how that particular GM is feeling that day.

Nerosys · #**208** 02-08-2013, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by baramur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds like option had agro and was going to position mob for engage, and tmo went ahead and engaged preventing Fe from positioning trak into a favorable position to engage, thus interfering with options pull. Fe had fte its tmo responsibility to not engage until wipe or reset, not Fe responsibility to engage early before positioned.

This, as has been told to us many times its your own fault if you don't let the mob reset.

Alarti0001 · #**209** 02-08-2013, 10:18 AM

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I thought it was your app? I mean, I have the SS of you and Zeelot telling me that too, you know.

Our engage was sustained, we had 4 people down there in the lair to make sure of that. We had over 30 people on before you all went in, and well before Option died. It actually was of a far less duration than the one that Desmo and Aalpha pulled off on the Trak before that..when you had 6 people on to our 29. You just happened to all rush in and, well, if you really want to kill mobs for us we arent going to say no.

You had 9 people on when we went in.... Post your logs fool

Alarti0001 · #**210** 02-08-2013, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by baramur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds like option had agro and was going to position mob for engage, and tmo went ahead and engaged preventing Fe from positioning trak into a favorable position to engage, thus interfering with options pull. Fe had fte its tmo responsibility to not engage until wipe or reset, not Fe responsibility to engage early before positioned.

If FE's and TMO's positions were reversed and brotos or amelinda were gms. TMO would be suspended for raid interference. Looks like FE might just lose the trak and avoid raid suspension.