What is end game like for normal people?

[SupaflyIRL]

Originally Posted by Byrjun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't see the problem with doing planar/sky raids while working on your epic and possibly purchasing MQs along the way. Include actually leveling to 60 and that's a hell of a lot of content to possibly get through. You're months from achieving all of these things, so why not just play the game and reevaluate your priorities after you've gotten level 60, planar armor, and some progress into your epic?

Mostly because "progress" on epics doesn't really mean shit for most classes (bard/sk/necro/ranger/druid/warrior/wizard, pretty much any class that needs something from CT/Inny/Trak/VS) as your bottleneck will be a mob you will never kill, or an absurd amount of plat (300-750k) for the bottleneck pieces.

It'd be nice to be honest with the guy and tell him up front instead of telling him to level to 60 so he can be disappointed after wasting his time.

[JesterJester]

Originally Posted by Tippett [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I still don't get it.

You only want to level to 60 if you can get uncontested epic/god loot at the end of it?

Yes, you will have to compete for loot like on any eq server ever in existence

Hope that cleared things up.

Except this server is locked in time where one or two guilds can dominate all raid targets - thats the difference. Open up Velious, Luclin, and PoP and the problem is gone with this server population. Unfortunately, I doubt luclin and PoP will ever seriously be considered.

[Tippett]

Originally Posted by SupaflyIRL [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It'd be nice to be honest with the guy and tell him up front instead of telling him to level to 60 so he can be disappointed after wasting his time.

Yeah I mean what's the point of EQ if you can't get your epic during Kunark era, back on live during Kunark we all had epics.

When I think Classic EQ I always think of everyone having an epic, otherwise what's the point?

All trolling aside if you are here exclusively to get an epic Jester then you probably would have much more fun on the EZ server, there is no competition there and you can get epics 1.0/1.5/2.0 with no bottlenecks.

[Tippett]

Originally Posted by JesterJester [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except this server is locked in time where one or two guilds can dominate all raid targets - thats the difference. Open up Velious, Luclin, and PoP and the problem is gone with this server population. Unfortunately, I doubt luclin and PoP will ever seriously be considered.

Yeah man they are just being dicks not opening up velious and other expansions.

I mean just hit the switch Nilbog, Jester has been here a week man he's sick of waiting for that PoP content hes already level 12.

[Tenlaar]

I would appreciate if you would leave your poor and inflammatory attitude out of what was a completely civil discussion.

[Tippett]

I apologize for what you perceive as poor attitude but you are getting exaggerations from people and also I find their own butthurtness about not having an epic annoying.

There is no reason you would be "bottlenecked" on your epic considering it's constantly farmed and you can either farm plat and buy the MQ pieces you need for one, join a raid guild which competes to kill the mobs who drop pieces, or a combination of both.

Epics are not rare at all on this server and are easily within the grasp of any player who actually puts effort into obtaining one.

[Tenlaar]

You honestly considering joining a raid guild in order to get an epic drop as a viable solution? Let's go with my bard's epic some day.

"Hey, I have no real interest in your raid schedule and might make a couple raids a week if I feel like it. There is no way you are going to call me in to kill something when I'm not already playing. I also won't pretend that I like the way you guys conduct yourself. Oh, yeah, and I really just want to get this epic drop and spend as little time with you as possible."

Is TMO going to let me in their guild? Would you? Should I lie until I get what I want and then leave?

That leaves spending months banking plat until I can afford to buy it from the very people who are keeping me from attempting to gain the drop with other guilds who enjoy a play style more similar to my own.

[Tippett]

So let me get this right, you think EQ is worthless without getting ultra high end raid drops but also refuse to contribute in anyway to a guild that kills ultra high end raid mobs?

EZ server def sounds like a better fit for your demands, you can get epics without having to deal with other "people" and contribute to "guilds you dont like".

[Tenlaar]

You don't seem to understand. I do want to contribute to a guild that kills high end raid mobs. I do not want to contribute to the one guild who seem to have positioned themselves in such a way as to actively cut off the vast majority of the server from doing the things that they are able to do or the one guild who is trying to give them competition by employing the same tactics.

Do you think "TMO or GTFO" for anybody who wants to eventually get an epic (yes, eventually - despite what you seem to think, I do not expect to have an epic in a month) or try some tougher raid mobs is a healthy way for the server to be, and the way it should be? That is certainly how you come across here.

[Tippett]

It's not that way at all though. Multiple guilds have the ability to epic members, even casual ones as long as you play for awhile.

This is what I was referring to about worrying about level 12 before you ask questions about the high end raid scene, you think you understand how it works but obviously have no idea.