i woke the sleeper

[Faron]

Originally Posted by Relapse2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tmo calls this competition. Why else do they wake up at 4am 2 yrs later for the same Trakanon they have killed 200 million times. Same as everyone else... also the poster below Ele to cause grief to the other guilds and get satisfaction from it.

Yes I'm sure that in your mind there are all sorts of justifications for raining on peoples' parades to get your jollies. It just shows that you and your buddies are trash. Sorry.

[OforOppression]

if your "parade" is a dragon from velious you need to get your fucking shit together im sorry

eqmac way too immersed and relapse did them a favor

[falkun]

When evidence is presented to the server staff, they remove GMs as they deem necessary. If you feel Ambrotos is/was a biased GM, present evidence to server staff and let them handle it. But spinning a conspiracy theory here in RNF is working about as well for TMO as it is for VD/BDA/FE. You still haven't shown how any conspiracy theory created by BDA/FE directly relates to our desire to play the game, changing it from my point that "BDA plays to enjoy the game" (1) to your point "BDA derives enjoyment from pissing off TMO".

Secondly, we do say grats to FE. See their guild discussion thread. With respect to "at least TMO didn't get it." I've already covered that in my last post. Here it is again in case you missed it.

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And I know more mains in FE than TMO that need the loot, so I AM glad when FE gets a kill over TMO.

I, and I imagine most people in BDA, know more mains in FE that will use the raid drops more than we know mains in TMO that will benefit from the raid drops. For instance, I know every single Trak tooth that FE and BDA obtain will go to main raiders. TMO has over 40 teeth banked, and I've seen sub-60s in VP gear. I know TMO's trak teeth are not going to main raiders. It makes me happy to see main raiders, from any guild, obtain gear. By saying, "At least TMO didn't get it," we are stating our pleasure at raid loot going to a main character, not a 3rd L60 purchased with plat off the EC tunnels. We are taking pleasure in others fortune, not TMO's misfortune. Again, because one person/force obtains loot, that means another did not. That is the system TMO enjoys, that is the system I play under. It is a side-effect, not the cause for my desire to raid.

[falkun]

And the "TMO spies app", are you seriously considering that Zeller's app as a serious app? I would think you, of all people, would be able to recognize a troll. (PS: its Anichek. Sorry to ruin the surprise).

[Faron]

Originally Posted by OforOppression [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if your "parade" is a dragon from velious you need to get your fucking shit together im sorry

eqmac way too immersed and relapse did them a favor

Yes we know, "it's just pixels", right?

EQMac was proud that they had mature enough players to agree to leave the sleeper sleeping, because it ensured that future classic progression guilds could experience that content and gear themselves up for the next tier. Relapse and crew specifically did this in order to ruin that. So it's not about the dragon, because I believe the GM ended up resetting the event anyway. It's about their intent, which is what makes them shit.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only ideas you communicate are face and palm.

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When evidence is presented to the server staff, they remove GMs as they deem necessary. If you feel Ambrotos is/was a biased GM, present evidence to server staff and let them handle it. But spinning a conspiracy theory here in RNF is working about as well for TMO as it is for VD/BDA/FE. You still haven't shown how any conspiracy theory created by BDA/FE directly relates to our desire to play the game, changing it from my point that "BDA plays to enjoy the game" (1) to your point "BDA derives enjoyment from pissing off TMO".

Secondly, we do say grats to FE. See their guild discussion thread. With respect to "at least TMO didn't get it." I've already covered that in my last post. Here it is again in case you missed it.

I, and I imagine most people in BDA, know more mains in FE that will use the raid drops more than we know mains in TMO that will benefit from the raid drops. For instance, I know every single Trak tooth that FE and BDA obtain will go to main raiders. TMO has over 40 teeth banked, and I've seen sub-60s in VP gear. I know TMO's trak teeth are not going to main raiders. It makes me happy to see main raiders, from any guild, obtain gear. By saying, "At least TMO didn't get it," we are stating our pleasure at raid loot going to a main character, not a 3rd L60 purchased with plat off the EC tunnels. We are taking pleasure in others fortune, not TMO's misfortune. Again, because one person/force obtains loot, that means another did not. That is the system TMO enjoys, that is the system I play under. It is a side-effect, not the cause for my desire to raid.

Fact: Ambrotos put out a new set of raid rules while actively raiding with BDA.
Fact: Ambrotos used those new raid rules to suspend or attempt to suspend TMO as a guild and TMO members multiple times.

There isn't a conspiracy here. Its what happened.

[BelenosGotHeals]

Originally Posted by Faron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's not about the dragon, It's about their intent which is what makes them shit.

People can get too immersed it's true, but if its really "just pixels" than why doesn't everyone here just quit EQ and starting forming Super Mario guilds? pixels are pixels right?
People's time is valuable, and most people who play EQ put in a looooot of time. Rellapse knows this and decided to shit on the seemingly good community they had there (ironically it seems, by investing hours and hours of his own time)

[Onshuu]

LSP woke the sleeper on Stromm. Felt good man.

[Raavak]

Waking the Sleeper is a built-in cockblock to put distance between the first guild to equip with primal weapons and resistance stones from those chasing them, on the raise to NToV. A built-in way to basically grief other guilds during Velious.

Waking the Sleeper in the PoP era is just asinine.

[Nirgon]

They got the reaction they wanted