Server down?

[Insidious]

For once I agree with Clueglue.

It's just like dealing with a little kid.

Seriously, his wrongdoings are being fed from our blatantly obvious and pathetic pleas and hateful retorts.

I know this will never happen... but stop feeding the killer.

[Erik]

Originally Posted by Pheer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why would SoE ddos an emulator server? Are you retarded? If they really wanted this shut down they could do it through legal means. If you think theyre paying some supernerd on their payroll extra under the table to "lean" on a particular emu server then youve suffered some very recent head trauma.

You are correct.

[LittleSorcerer7]

Alrighty, I've read a bunch of stuff about people seeing reset fit among other things, but does anyone know what the Gm's think of this whole ddos yet? Just wondering if there's any word yet.

[Allizia]

Originally Posted by Insidious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For once I agree with Clueglue.

It's just like dealing with a little kid.

Seriously, his wrongdoings are being fed from our blatantly obvious and pathetic pleas and hateful retorts.

I know this will never happen... but stop feeding the killer.

^ This

Stop with the death threats etc. Have some fun instead, post some youtube videos or work on wife/gf rep. The server isn't going anywhere, even if he DDoS's it all week long it will pick back up right where it left off.

[Ektar]

zomg I started reading the thread when it had 9 pages. I just ended on page 15! stop posting or I can't go to bed! stop posting FOR MEEEEE!


Are you kidding? 4 new posts while I was making this one! lol =D edit, btw

[Scrooge]

FYI, there are services around the net which specifically cater to this kind of problem....google's your friend.

[Erik]

Originally Posted by Ektar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

zomg I started reading the thread when it had 9 pages. I just ended on page 15! stop posting or I can't go to bed! stop posting FOR MEEEEE!


Are you kidding? 4 new posts while I was making this one! lol =D edit, btw

I am sorry ektar

We have yet to hear from the GMs

[Auvdar]

So this is happening because someone got there e-peen hurt... in an online game.... that is 10 years old..... on a free server?.... I'm so moving to an African village were things like this get your head cut-off and stuck on a wooden spear.

[Cruel_Novo]

Long post... but interesting stuff. <anon> claims to be the one doing the DDoS.
From IRC tonight (Had to edit some out to get it under the 10000 limit):
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<ramuza>who is this dildo on the forums "haiguyz" who is saying he's responsible for the ddos
<anon>me
<ramuza>oic
<ramuza>why are you a dildo
<anon>you read my post, you know why
<ramuza>because you are bored?
<anon>no
<anon>read it
<ramuza>because you want to ruin peoples fun ? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
<ramuza>I read it.
<ramuza>Just strikes me odd that someone would actually do such a thing and claim it to be some kind of righteous cause, when in reality the majority of players could care less about emu server drama
<ramuza>Just want to play...for the purpose of playing
<ramuza>To deny a couple hundred people that over a personal grudge well...it's selfish and retarded.
<Cruel>so, anon, is Rogean the only person that can give you what you need to end the denial of service? Set some rules for GM's (and maybe take back some gear) - but mainly set some rules?
<anon>rogean or nilbog apparently
<Cruel>And the intention of the denial of service is to get all of the "average" players to put peer pressure on them? And shed some light on some "shady" situations?
<anon>no
<Cruel>oh, well then outside of talking with them, what is the purpose of the dos if not to bring it to "joe users" like me?
<anon>because they put in hundreds of hours into this and why would they want to fuck it up just to give a few of their friends shit
<ramuza>why do you care so much
<iggi1>honestly, I feel like this is some grade school BS, if they pissed you off why the hell would you want to continue on a server you have been wronged on?
<anon>i am the internet
<anon>and i will take back whats wrong
<Cruel>"internet" or "Internet" ? 'cause I would go for the capital "I" for sure - kinda like god vs. God
<anon>nobody else can stand up and fight so i will
<iggi1>you osund like your 13 years old or just some guy who has no life and no job
<ramuza>if you really thought you were so right why didnt you go about it in a more civil way that included actual proof of your accusations and try to rally support from concerned players
<ramuza>instead of ruining everyones ability to play at all
<anon>i did
<ramuza>including all of the people who could care LESS
<ramuza>about GM/IB "server drama"
<anon>you can blame rogean and nilbog for this
<iggi1>this is like negotiating with a terrorist, wait DDoS is actually recongized as cyber terrorism
<Cruel>He's actually getting a lot of attention now - obviously from the wrong people - but attention none the less
<anon>not only did they attempt to stall me but they mocked me when they switched to this ddos protected host
<anon>so now its personal
<anon>if you want shit to work talk to rogean and nilbog
<ramuza>so youd just rather try to shut down the whole op
<anon>they have the power to end it
<ramuza>even though you said you enjoyed the server so muhc
<anon>yeah
<anon>because its not worth playing currently
<Cruel>Hey! I thought you said you weren't doing this so we would put pressure on them. I specifically asked you this.
<ramuza>i just dont see how something so little like the accusations you posted in your thread could mean so much
<ramuza>and i also dont see why 1 person gets to be the judge of whether or not "its worth playing"
<anon>well it would help but the original intent wasnt to make it die for however long its been down
<ramuza>since you are no more a part of the server than any other player
<anon>was only trying to lag it
<anon>but i guess i crashed it
<anon>i even went easy on it
<anon>its not like im demanding free shit
<anon>if i wanted to ruin this server completely i could
<anon>id ruin the economy
<anon>then ddos it into oblivion
<ramuza>i doubt what you are asking will be done
<anon>it would end up just like vztz
<ramuza>people are running the server because they wanted to attempt to provide a classic experience for veteran players who enjoyed the game and wanted another go at it
<anon>there is a lot of shit going on that cant be easily proven
<Cruel>If your accusations are true; I, oddly, in principal agree with you. I don't agree with your means to get this resolved... but I don't think some people should be able to provide/receive special treatment
<ramuza>do you really think people putting their time into a free game will fight to keep it alive
<anon>when you put your time into something its not for free. you get experience and notoriety out of it
<ramuza>corruption is rampant in all types of society whether it be real or virtual.
<anon>so why not fight it
<anon>there are servers that arent corrupt
<ramuza>and what your claiming doesnt affect the majority of people. if it did there would be a lot more talk about it
<ramuza>they dont offer the same experience as this one currently does
<anon>exactly
<ramuza>people dont care about gm corruption. it was small. its not hugely rampant that anyone can see
<ramuza>and people dont care about ddos attacks either
<ramuza>they play when the server is up
<ramuza>and they do something else when you take it down
<anon>people care
<iggi1>I don't.
<anon>this server will die if people cant play it on their own schedule
<ramuza>they know they are investing time in something that could be gone any day
<Cruel>I think it's something else... I think we are hearing about a surface issue or this 'anon' guy is just having a good time in IRC and has nothing to do with the server being down
<ramuza>im sure they care but its SLIGHT
<anon>thats what i mean. they care about their invested time
<Cruel>there is no way someone will take the time to manufacture a DDoS to stop ~300 people from playing a free game.
<ramuza>like i said, its free, and could be gone at any time
<ramuza>you can only put so much into that. i doubt anyone is going to nerd rage to the point of suicide if this server never surfaces again
<ramuza>its not really 'manufacturing' shit
<ramuza>its not rocket science
<ramuza>You and i could do some google work and probably get the same result
<iggi1>it takes time, but the code will exist forever, iirc its open source [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
<ramuza>The only difference is, the majority of people, dont care enough to do something so drastic over something so little
<ramuza>but apparently, we have 1 disgruntled player, who thinks he has the right to ruin everyone elses fun because he's mad at a gm
<ramuza>that = fail
<anon>im on your side even if you hate me
<anon>and even if i accidentally crashed the server
<iggi1>how?
<anon>i didnt mean to
<ramuza>why lag it
<ramuza>in the first place
<anon>im one of you anyway
<ramuza>its still taking away from the players
<anon>to prove that its not ddos protected\
<ramuza>if you dont like the way things are, the best thing to do is quit
<anon>rogean talked a lot of shit to me
<ramuza>because there are a lot of people who dont give a shit
<iggi1>Don't compare me to you, someone who turns to DDoS is of a lower class.
<anon>quitting isnt an option for me
<anon>do what? crash the server?
<anon>fuck i should be in bed now its 1am
<iggi1>he has ot go to school in the morning imo...
<anon>i make 180k/yr as a programmer
<ramuza>Im sure you do
<anon>you blow it off as not being complicated
<ramuza>And youre so pissed off over a free everquest server
<ramuza>If i made 180k a year
<ramuza>I sure as fuck wouldnt be playing EQ
<ramuza>on a free emu server
<anon>i write the exploits
<anon>i play plenty of paid games
<anon>i play eq because its a challenge
<anon>you have no idea what im capable of
<ramuza>When someone starts spouting off how much money they make and what they are capable of blah blah
<ramuza>Its just a bunch of shit
<ramuza>It's something a kid would do. a 16 year old kid.
<anon>well if you want to talk shit you can get in line with rogean
<anon>because there is absolutely no way he can stop me
<ramuza>hey anon
<ramuza>why dont you start your own server on that 180k salary
<anon>i already have one dumbass
<Cruel>Hey Anon! Your post in the project1999 forums is really getting some attention. You need to say something in that thread again... put some fuel on the fire. Everyone is getting off topic. They are calling each other names - instead of you. Be sure to keep everyone focused.
<anon>well im going to bed
<Cruel>damn damn. just when this was getting good
<ramuza>can you give me some phat lewtz when the server comes back up anon
<ramuza>kthx
<Cruel>Ok. Let's recap what we learned so far. Anon wants some GM rules and for IB to lose some gear. And maybe an admission from Rogean and nilbog that they were playing "favorites." When that happens the DDoS will stop. Is that about right?
<iggi1>My money is definitely on Kringe from VZTZ. He's sort of a dev there, is known to play here, and he's pulled this exact same butt-hurt retribution before on that server.
<iggi1>I'm sure the people at emu.pwned.com can give you his personal info. It was dragged up before when he did this to vztz a few months ago.
<iggi1>(12:52:20 AM) anon: then ddos it into oblivion
<iggi1>(12:52:21 AM) ramuza: i doubt what you are asking will be done
<iggi1>(12:52:29 AM) anon: it would end up just like vztz
<Bigfatty>Anon is just some guy who wants to take credit for something he thinks you need to be smart to do
<Cruel>Oh, and we learned that 'anon' tries to get to bed around 1am Eastern. And he makes 180K year as a programming contractor
<Cruel>Get to bed 'anon'! You have a call in like 7 hours. Then a scrum. Then you need to go over your latest commits. And you need to do a code review for the junior programmers on your team. Busy day ahead for you
<ramuza>where da GMz at
<ramuza>whats what i want to know
<ramuza>someone shed some real light on the situation
<Cruel>bingo. I can't wait to hear that "Bob" in the datacenter kicked the ethernet cable outa the server.
<ramuza>Seriously

[Icecometus]

If there was a legit vote for a restart I am sure it would pass. Come on, starting over can be so much fun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]