Game Mechanics: Double Invisibility

[Nirgon]

Don't think that invis to animals ever makes it so an animal that could already see through normal invis couldn't see ya.

Can't think of one instance of that, maybe there is one.

[Furme]

This was actually working as of Luclin and maybe even PoP..

The trick was that some of the invis spells didn't have a check on them to determine whether the person was already affected by an invis spell or not..

So, that being said it was all about which order you put them on, not about them just not stacking..

If I remember correctly, as a bard.. I was able to get ivu and have my bard song tick over and stack with ivu / invis.. just when bard song wore off both ivu and invis would cease working.

My druid friend could camo and be ivu as well.. just had to cast... ivu while camo was casting..

[Nirgon]

Bard song was different.

And we all know that Luclin/PoP spell revamps broke things.

Seems to be working correctly on EQMac which has been a solid ledger for basic mechanics and buff stacking thus far when no patch notes exist one way or another regarding a point of contention here.

[Massive Marc]

I have 0 evidence, except for memory, but in this instance I'm 99.9% sure, pre-veilous you could be invis/IVU. Nirgon says this shouldn't be able to happen because he remembers it from lower guk, but thats exactly how I remember getting to camps in Lguk in classic - invis myself and have a cleric IUV me. Needs more evidence IMO.

[Nirgon]

Evidence is:

No patch notes stating one way or the other.

Works like this on EQMac.

[Massive Marc]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Evidence is:

No patch notes stating one way or the other.

Works like this on EQMac.

I obviously can't contest that it works like that on EQMac, but even emailing some old players this morning that don't play here, they remember it like I posted... One was a cleric I duoed with often in LGuk... i dunno.. there has to be more evidence somewhere. I have no problem changing it if needed.

[Nirgon]

What you're running into here is things that are not working here that worked another way on live. Never broken on live? No patch note needed. I've come to respect checking things on EQMac regarding this.

This also isn't to say that everything that changed ever got a patch note, or every bug that ever existed didn't get one either.

I remember seeing people get invis to undead cast on them and then running into undead frogs and getting aggro.... because they had regular invis on from running through guktop.

I also remember being told "drop invis" when I was about to head down so I could get IVU. I do remember all this clear as a bell.

[Massive Marc]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What you're running into here is things that are not working here that worked another way on live. Never broken on live? No patch note needed. I've come to respect checking things on EQMac regarding this.

This also isn't to say that everything that changed ever got a patch note, or every bug that ever existed didn't get one either.

I remember seeing people get invis to undead cast on them and then running into undead frogs and getting aggro.... because they had regular invis on from running through guktop.

I also remember being told "drop invis" when I was about to head down so I could get IVU. I do remember all this clear as a bell.

I agree with your first statements. Can you confirm if your memory is from pre-velious ? My memory is of pre-velious era (as I didn't play to much into velious) I can't confirm Kunark by memory, but I do remember them stacking in Classic. The only reason I remember was because of passing Bedroom(camp) and having to get past Bats and Drybones ? I dunno, you've made me lose my confidence ! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Nirgon]

I remain steadfast in my claims.

I reckons the greater ice bones saw through invis and invis to undead, but as long as you hugged the wall you were fine.

[Nirgon]

Nah it was because it wouldnt stick. My friend was a necro with a harvester.