Veeshan's Peak - Non disputable zone

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How so? Everyone knows the first day was Rogean's rules. You think that gave us an advantage somehow? I am waiting for your point. Do you have one?

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO was grandfathered in to VP, but the other forces do not have that luxury. TMO was given a two week period of non-contested VP loot, and competing forces were not allowed to train them, so they could set up their CoH locations and also pre-camp any forces for training or recovery purposes. I'm sure FE, BDA, or VD (when it existed) would trade 48 hours of no outside raid mobs for the protection inside VP that was granted to IB and TMO when VP was first opened.

Point was made before you asked the question.

[Fountree]

I love how much these Metallikus threads reek of desperation, the more you give in to these endless threads and let them get to you, the more power it gives the trolls. I guess I'll take this opportunity to give my opinion on the state of p99 instead of focusing on the narrow minded blah blah blah TMO sucks direction this poster always tries to pull the community towards.

Fact is, TMO at this point killed everything more times than Metallikus can probably count up to, and despite a population increase from curious new players, the server is content-wise at least, long dead. There hasn't been an update or even reset in months, Velious still has no firm beta date, and we're 2 years into Kunark. To say this server is healthy is a joke. And the problem that lies at the core isn't the squabbling amongst the top raid guilds, which is inevitable, it is the lack of progression in the game. Where is the content to experience for longtime players who have remained loyal and playing through the servers history? I understand that the GMs don't owe us anything, and yes I know this is a free server, but can we really call this server a fair emulation of live anymore? We're really at a tipping point now and the GMs should recognize that. So why are we nitpicking on whether or not VP should be a CSR zone or not when really 99% people don't really give a crap? Including TMO because we've farmed it dry for well over a year now? I say let's try to be more constructive and work together in getting this new content released as fast as possible instead, before we have more than 75% of the server with level 60s please.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Point was made before you asked the question.

I'm sure TMO would trade having a GM in their guild like Bischbrotos for 1 round of VP spawns too.

I still don't get your point. BDA would probably trade alot of things to be in TMO's shoes.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Fountree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

threads reek of desperation

Pot - kettle - black:

Originally Posted by Fountree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fact is, TMO at this point killed everything more times than Metallikus can probably count up to, and despite a population increase from curious new players, the server is content-wise at least, long dead. There hasn't been an update or even reset in months, Velious still has no firm beta date, and we're 2 years into Kunark. To say this server is healthy is a joke. And the problem that lies at the core isn't the squabbling amongst the top raid guilds, which is inevitable, it is the lack of progression in the game. Where is the content to experience for longtime players who have remained loyal and playing through the servers history? I understand that the GMs don't owe us anything, and yes I know this is a free server, but can we really call this server a fair emulation of live anymore? We're really at a tipping point now and the GMs should recognize that. So why are we nitpicking on whether or not VP should be a CSR zone or not when really 99% people don't really give a crap? Including TMO because we've farmed it dry for well over a year now? I say let's try to be more constructive and work together in getting this new content released as fast as possible instead, before we have more than 75% of the server with level 60s please.

Metal/Anthrax is complaining that players, the "visitors" to this grand creation by Nilbog& co., are artificially denying content to the rest of the server because they can. TMO are the only people on the server who have "killed content more times than Metallikus can probably count to", and that's because TMO are the only ones who wish to block content on that large of a scale. VD has folded, and BDA and FE, the other current high-end raid forces have openly shared content via assisting in kills (see FC's VS) and open raid content (see the last TMO raid-ban). This server does not need more content when less than 50% of the server has seen the content. I argue that if you feel you have run out of content to conquer, then you are conquering content too quickly, not that it is being released too slowly. Conquer content slower and you won't have this predicament you are in. I still have lots of things to experience in Kunark like obtaining L60, my epic, and VP.

Please stop desperately whining for Velious, there is still content here in Kunark (at least if you aren't in TMO). You've put yourself into the predicament you are whining about.

If you've "farmed [VP] dry for over a year", why are you still so desperate to kill Trakanon to keep other guilds out of VP? Why are you so eager to train VP if you've "farmed it dry for over a year"? TMO is the only force that has "farmed it dry for over a year" and yet TMO still battles for VP via Trakanon and training inside the zone.

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I still don't get your point. BDA would probably trade alot of things to be in TMO's shoes.

Take off your tinfoil hat.

We wouldn't trade our morals. When TMO was banned for two weeks, BDA offered up every mob available, even Trakanon.

Fountree and TMO's solution to shitty server: give us Velious so we can poopsock somewhere else. We're bored here, but we kill it anyways because that's all there is.
BDA, FE, other guild's solution to a shitty server: Shit's 12 years old, can't we all just get along?

You decide what you feel is better for the server.

[Itap]

Originally Posted by Fountree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love how much these Metallikus threads reek of desperation, the more you give in to these endless threads and let them get to you, the more power it gives the trolls. I guess I'll take this opportunity to give my opinion on the state of p99 instead of focusing on the narrow minded blah blah blah TMO sucks direction this poster always tries to pull the community towards.

Fact is, TMO at this point killed everything more times than Metallikus can probably count up to, and despite a population increase from curious new players, the server is content-wise at least, long dead. There hasn't been an update or even reset in months, Velious still has no firm beta date, and we're 2 years into Kunark. To say this server is healthy is a joke. And the problem that lies at the core isn't the squabbling amongst the top raid guilds, which is inevitable, it is the lack of progression in the game. Where is the content to experience for longtime players who have remained loyal and playing through the servers history? I understand that the GMs don't owe us anything, and yes I know this is a free server, but can we really call this server a fair emulation of live anymore? We're really at a tipping point now and the GMs should recognize that. So why are we nitpicking on whether or not VP should be a CSR zone or not when really 99% people don't really give a crap? Including TMO because we've farmed it dry for well over a year now? I say let's try to be more constructive and work together in getting this new content released as fast as possible instead, before we have more than 75% of the server with level 60s please.

Great post, I agree 100%.

We all know (and even you admitted) that TMO has farmed this content to death, so why not let other guilds a chance to "farm it dry"? There's no need to prove anything anymore, TMO is the top guild.

So give other people a chance to experience the content?

[Fountree]

Actually, on any sane comparison to the timeline of live, you're dead wrong Falk and u know it. Between 1999-2001 we were well into velious already (2 years, same amount of time Kunark has been released for with pretty much nothing else). So I can't take anything you say seriously... You've had plenty of time to play in Kunark (and will continue to for the rest of the server's history)

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Fountree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually, on any sane comparison to the timeline of live, you're dead wrong Falk and u know it. Between 1999-2001 we were well into velious already (2 years, same amount of time Kunark has been released for with pretty much nothing else). So I can't take anything you say seriously... You've had plenty of time to play in Kunark (and will continue to for the rest of the server's history)

I know when the expansions were released. You know that TMO overgears Kunark and will likely overgear Velious due to being near-100% BiS. You also have a larger raid force than was classic and many more accounts per player than was classic. All of these facts are true (both mine and yours), but I still have things to do in Kunark. That is because I'm not trying to DOMINATE Kunark and other guilds, but I'm trying to have fun in Everquest. I argue that makes me, and those like me that still wish to experience Kunark content, less desperate than those like you who still artificially deny Kunark content while whining about Kunark content being old and demanding new content in Velious. You are burning both ends of the candle and then whining that you've used up the entire candle. Sorry, you don't get a new one, Fountree.

Fountree, do you realize that within a single post you have simultaneously complained that "VP is old" while also argued that training should remain within VP?

[Zeelot]

Ever thought that we like raiding because we are a raiding guild? It is the reason why we kill things. We are not trying to block anyone. Our playstyle just doesnt match with some people's 'lets all be family guilds that get along' mentality.

[falkun]

Then continue to raid for the enjoyment. You haven't "farmed it dry" if you are enjoying it though. Fountree sounds desperate for Velious. I suggest he either takes a break or finds a new motivation to raid, like yours: for the enjoyment.

[Zeelot]

Reason I am still enjoying things is because I login casually. If TMO really wanted to deprive the server, you would see me on every day and other guilds would barely be getting anything.