Is TMO bad for the server?

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Were you not very young during that time period and also not participating in the end game?

define, very young.

also

no i didn't take part of the end game.

[deneauth]

Originally Posted by Ephi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well first off the rules you referred to above are not really the rules that were violated today, which is what I'm assuming you are referring to. Perhaps indirectly, but not entirely true. If a raid target is up, you better expect competition.

Second, we enforce the rules, we take actions. In the past actions were taken against entire guilds and guild leadership, perhaps at times prematurely. This can still be the case, but only in extreme circumstances. Each situation is judged on its own merit, the disciplinary actions discussed with multiple staff members, and appropriate actions taken.

Third, no matter what actions we take, Guild A (violating guild) says they're too harsh, Guild B (victim guild) says they aren't harsh enough. Honestly, we all need to take a step back and investigate ourselves, our motives, and what we want for the Project 1999 server and community. Is it guild drama, loot whoring, and harsh punishment for crimes committed? Or do we want to foster a better game, communicate with each other, and move the server forward in a better way?

The point of staff disciplinary action is not to remove those responsible from the game, and certainly not to remove those indirectly associated. Not in any way is it about that. It's about teaching people that they are doing something wrong, so that they can correct it, redeem their name, and hopefully make the server a better place in the future. At times, they fail to do that, and that's where permanent bans usually sit (as well as some other one-off circumstances).

The point is, it's a long road, and it's not always easy to interpret staff rules, especially during heated races. It's our job to clarify them as much as possible, make sure people understand them, not make mistakes in enforcing them (we're human), and refine them to fit the vision that the owners of the server see for it.

Sorry you feel violated for whatever has occurred today or in the past. We're all working pretty hard at trying to create a better future for the server, even though at times it may not seem that way.

Edit: I edit a lot. Get over it.

Re read it people and then eat a Snickers bar because you all act like Devas when you are hungry.

[quido]

I'm hungry.

[tekniq]

every server needs a guild like TMO.

[fishingme]

voted yes because tmo/ib drama made us lose two devs

[Eccezan]

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[Kraftwerk]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm hungry.

Snap into a slim jim.

[gotrocks]

I support server raid calenders.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by bouncerr 2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Was there rotations on live? No

If players play more than yourself so what? They deserve the loot they put effort into.

Being on top on live, it was the same bullshit there. Haters gonna hate no matter what.

All these accusations of r m t and no fucking proof. Its called u mad.

lol, dumb.

[nilbog]

To be fair, every raid guild is bad for the 'server' as a whole.

If everyone was level 10-55 and only talked about raiding, the server would be a better place.