TMO's endless suspensions (no big deal they buy plenty of accounts)

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by Ephi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well first off the rules you referred to above are not really the rules that were violated today, which is what I'm assuming you are referring to. Perhaps indirectly, but not entirely true. If a raid target is up, you better expect competition.

Second, we enforce the rules, we take actions. In the past actions were taken against entire guilds and guild leadership, perhaps at times prematurely. This can still be the case, but only in extreme circumstances. Each situation is judged on its own merit, the disciplinary actions discussed with multiple staff members, and appropriate actions taken.

Third, no matter what actions we take, Guild A (violating guild) says they're too harsh, Guild B (victim guild) says they aren't harsh enough. Honestly, we all need to take a step back and investigate ourselves, our motives, and what we want for the Project 1999 server and community. Is it guild drama, loot whoring, and harsh punishment for minor crimes? Or do we want to foster a better game, communicate with each other, and move the server forward in a better way?

The point of staff disciplinary action is not to remove those responsible from the game. Not in any way is it about that. It's about teaching people that they are doing something wrong, so that they can correct it, redeem their name, and hopefully make the server a better place in the future. At times, they fail to do that, and that's where permanent bans usually sit (as well as some other one-off circumstances).

The point is, it's a long road, and it's not always easy to interpret staff rules, especially during heated races. It's our job to clarify them as much as possible, make sure people understand them, not make mistakes in enforcing them (we're human), and refine them to fit the vision that the owners of the server see for it.

Sorry you feel violated for whatever has occurred today or in the past. We're all working pretty hard at trying to create a better future for the server, even though at times it may not seem that way.

That would be a fair and reasonable response if the entire server wasnt tainted by violation after violation by one guild in particular on a consistent basis with almost no restitution or recall.

[quido]

Big words for a pint-sized intellect there!

[Ephi]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Big words for a pint-sized intellect there!

Is that a halfling joke?

/target Jeremy
#permarace 11

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SURE your clean.

you're*

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Ephi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is that a halfling joke?

/target Jeremy
#permarace 11

Please do this to all my characters.

[quido]

lol

[Yajirobe Yajipants]

Not 5 minutes after the resulting ban, the violating player's well known alt was online as well. Banned from just playing the monk for a week?

[fullmetalcoxman]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like do you want the message from the gm saying it or did u want logs of tmo members admitting it or just the pure absence of characters in game (sentenza, wistie, fazlazen, aalpha, fauss, 3 undisclosed accounts according to gm from fear trains a week ago).

Sure, the message from the GM saying TMO has had 10 accounts banned in the last month for raid disruption would work. Or the logs of TMO admitting to it, either would work.

[Yajirobe Yajipants]

Originally Posted by fullmetalcoxman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure, the message from the GM saying TMO has had 10 accounts banned in the last month for raid disruption would work. Or the logs of TMO admitting to it, either would work.

There's not going to be a single message where a GM would recount the suspensions. Just like TMO wouldn't admit to all of it...if at all. They still refute that Fauss was banned.

[Fountree]

People, can we just please stop crying already? New content will erase most of Metallikus and other affected parties' tears. Also, 99% of people don't care and respect the players of TMO. I don't go around shit talking FE or BDA every chance I get. But I can understand the anger. I can understand it bubbling inside you from losing year+ of mobs...please try to put server peace over your own selfish motives already?