Is this classic?? (the official tmo cheats thread)

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Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wasn't the story that TMO got a warning a couple days before the patch went live thus skirting all the suspensions? (Amelinda being in your pocket and all...)

at the very least, you could try and get your timeline correct.

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who got banned from BDA? this is news to me, i was around for the mass bannings and for most of the time afterwards, i can only remember one person from bda that got popped in that sting, and he was inactive and not even lvl 50. i cant speak for VD or IB, and frankly i dont give a shit about VD(or what was VD) or IB as neither of those guilds compete on this server. lets leave the past in the past and clean up the server now, if you guys got nothing to hide, and the bouncerr situation is just an isolated case then why are you guys so defensive?

its just rnf after all

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Originally Posted by Tarathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

who got banned from BDA? this is news to me, i was around for the mass bannings and for most of the time afterwards, i can only remember one person from bda that got popped in that sting, and he was inactive and not even lvl 50. i cant speak for VD or IB, and frankly i dont give a shit about VD(or what was VD) or IB as neither of those guilds compete on this server. lets leave the past in the past and clean up the server now, if you guys got nothing to hide, and the bouncerr situation is just an isolated case then why are you guys so defensive?

its just rnf after all

stop
think
ambrotos
mass banning
timeline
stop
think
some
more
then
post
again

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Originally Posted by Tarathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why are you guys so defensive?

now ask yourself this.

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Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

stop
think
ambrotos
mass banning
timeline
stop
think
some
more
then
post
again

/dust's off his detective hat......


ok, well ambrotos was not a GM during the mass banning so one must assume he is talking about people banned since then. i still cannot recall a single member of BDA that was popped, so that either means that A. they admitted to us that they were banned and just fell off the map, or B. they lied about being banned and went on an "extended break." in either case i have no sympathy, if a member of BDA was caught cheating then let them be known to the officers so that something can be done about it. either way, if members of bda were banned, they were not raiders or important members of the guild because afaik most of our "core" members are accounted for.

not being defensive just stating the facts as i know them, if someone has info that i dont feel free to share, im all for equal opportunity banning, TMO, BDA,, IB i dont care if you cheat you need to face the hammer

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**A. they *never* admitted

damnit i wish i could edit rnf post, gimmie at least 30 seconds to proof read after i post damn

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Originally Posted by Tarathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/dust's off his detective hat......


ok, well ambrotos was not a GM during the mass banning so one must assume he is talking about people banned since then. i still cannot recall a single member of BDA that was popped, so that either means that A. they admitted to us that they were banned and just fell off the map, or B. they lied about being banned and went on an "extended break." in either case i have no sympathy, if a member of BDA was caught cheating then let them be known to the officers so that something can be done about it. either way, if members of bda were banned, they were not raiders or important members of the guild because afaik most of our "core" members are accounted for.

not being defensive just stating the facts as i know them, if someone has info that i dont feel free to share, im all for equal opportunity banning, TMO, BDA,, IB i dont care if you cheat you need to face the hammer

Originally Posted by Ambrotos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I ended up banning more people in VD IB and BDA than in TMO. The illusion that the hard core raiders cheat more is pretty far off on this server. It's the more casual under lvl50 people who have done it the most. I can count up to only 6 people or so were banned and 5 were for 2boxing the past few months after IB and VD dissolved.

Every raid attended was checked when I was able to log in for ,for boxers and showeq or MQ. Don't sink down to the red99 forum trolls and think everything is bad. However I fully agree with Nilbog, but I would rather a player hall of shame in game with the peoples name.

1) He talks about who he personally has banned (which is weird, if he is/was VD *Bisch*, he isn't supposed to deal with people from his guild), but anyhow.

2) People who are banned, are never (read: rarely) made public. So unless the person came forth to say they were banned, you'd not know who they were. They could have simply changed mains, taken an "extended break" or what have you or even could have been like Ambrotos suggests, someone who is new and not a raider (casual person under lvl 50)

3) I agree, no sympathy. Perma ban the accounts. Preferably delete the account/character/items and free up some space.

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I personally like Bisch btw (and Ambrotos). I really have nothing against him.

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well now that we got that cleared up lol where do we go from here?

MOAR BANNING!!!!! KILL EM WITH FIRE!!!

[Tarathiel]

seriously tho, they need to inform the guild leaders at least if members of their guild are getting banned for cheating, not only so that they can try to get a better hold of the situation(so that threads like this dont pop up) and so that the officers/guild leaders can keep better tabs on their roster and who might actually be coming back when they go on a break