So your guns keep you safe?

[hatelore]

Originally Posted by Goofier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, I know, should have bought one years ago when I wanted to.
Now the new PPK's pretty much all suck.
The PPS, though, being 9 or .40 is pretty awesome for what it is.

Yeah i miss my old ppk, it fit the hand perfectly. And with ++p ammunition the 380 wasn't such a bad round. Very accurate little guns.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Andrew Jackson [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All teachers and faculty need to be armed, and a school cop who isn't a vagina like on Columbine.

Yeah...until one of them inner-city kids slap the donkeyshit out of their teacher, appropriate the gun, and use it to play tag with the classroom.

Imagine the uproar when that happens.

See...I know yer trolling but there are some batshit crazy people out there that actually believe what you said.

[Arclyte]

Originally Posted by Hitchens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the battle is between a bunch of grabass rednecks with retail shotguns and a drone, my money will be on the drone.

Originally Posted by Arclyte [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...meanwhile a bunch of untrained cavemen have fought the strongest military in history to a stalemate for over 11 years with AK47s, RPGs and improvised explosives.

You are wrong. Flat out.

Originally Posted by Hitchens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty significant cultural differences between Joe American and Joe Mujahideen.

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Afghans ain't wrapped up in Dancing with the Stars and they don't care if McDonald's is open or not. The average American wouldn't last 10 days in a cave before he was begging to suck **ck for a french fry.

Hitchens nailed it, bro. Wake up.

Originally Posted by Arclyte [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol, so, your argument against the 2nd amendment is that Americans are too fat and unmotivated to use their guns?

speak for yourself, tubs

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Originally Posted by Hitchens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[Humerox]

I think he meant the part where you said I was against the second amendment, bro.

Classic straw man.

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[Humerox]

He missed one, tho...I'm so good I got a 2 fer 1 post deal!

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[Humerox]

@Arclyte...

Going back and reading through your posts proves to me that you're an intelligent person, so here's some clarification on my position:

I'm not anti-gun at all. It's a matter of what guns are available to the general public. In the matter of mass-killings...they CAN be stopped. Australia has proven that. The problem with US gun control laws is that they've been enacted and not enforced. You can't half-ass proper legislation, or you wind up in the predicament we're in.

Will gun-control eliminate gun violence? No. Can it prevent the next mass murder of innocents in the country? Likely, yes. The problem here is that if we do nothing, we change nothing...and things have to change.

Assault rifles and semi-automatic handguns have no place in our current society. Single action handguns and rifles are fine. The Supreme Court upheld our individual right to bear arms, but like any other right it's not absolute. It must be balanced against the harm it can cause. The old argument about free speech and yelling "fire" in a crowded theater is a cliche, but it still serves as a good example in the case up balancing free speech against harmful action, and proves that the right of free speech is not absolute. The same de facto rule applies to the second amendment.

Maybe someday you'll change your mind. Probably not...but maybe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Sly]

Death by auto 2000-2010 there were and avg of 40k deaths in auto accidents--ban cars

Death by medecine--This fully referenced report shows the number of people having in-hospital, adverse reactions to prescribed drugs to be 2.2 million per year. The number of unnecessary antibiotics prescribed annually for viral infections is 20 million per year. The number of unnecessary medical and surgical procedures performed annually is 7.5 million per year. The number of people exposed to unnecessary hospitalization annually is 8.9 million per year.
The most stunning statistic, however, is that the total number of deaths caused by conventional medicine is an astounding 783,936 per year. It is now evident that the American medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the US.
These are CDC numbers---ban medical procedures

We can go on and on about the things we need to ban or restrict trying to ' protect' everyone, why not just every stay in their homes with police posted at our doors.
We either take on the challenge of living as free responsible individuals or we cower in fear and stay in our homes under the false sense of being protected by mommy govt.

For those who do not like firearms or fear them, don't own them but dont take away or restrict my right to own them for my own protection.
I wouldnt try to have your right to free speech restricted simply because I dont like or agree with what you say

[Goofier]

Originally Posted by hatelore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah i miss my old ppk, it fit the hand perfectly. And with ++p ammunition the 380 wasn't such a bad round. Very accurate little guns.

Got some Buffalo Bore .380 right here [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Hitchens]

Arclyte,

Americans are not too "fat and unmotivated" to use their guns. Americans, for the most part at least, simply have different values than Mujahideen. I don't really consider this to be a negative thing. I would certainly prefer my culture to theirs.

[Llodd]

Originally Posted by Andrew Jackson [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

CA does have the most gun control, per the Brady campaign's own website where it scores in the high 80's. Utah as a counterexample, scores a 0.

I don't know if CA has the most total guns, I'd doubt it in favour of the midwest. But it does have the highest amount of firearm homicides, as I showed in the FBI fact sheet.

Leaning towards idiot.

That FBI fact sheet you so obviously haven't even looked at properly, lists the total firearms (per state) in the next column to total homicides (per state)..

So CA, who has the highest gun control, has the highest murders and highest total number of guns.

Tells you alot about the supposed 'gun control' and how highly it rates.

ie - it's pathetic and non existant.

I wont even try to draw conclusions about the state with the highest total guns having the highest total murders as that wouldn't fit in with the crazy talk around here.