Spells: Enchanter mez and memblur

[guineapig]

Oh almost forgot, currently the best mez in the game has a 1% chance of membluring the mob:

Dazzle
Slot Description
1: Mesmerize (2/55)
2: Memblur (1%)

[Dersk]

I don't think it has anything to do with the level of the mob:

Memory Blur
Slot Description
1: Memblur (10%)

I've explicitly stated I'm talking about the mesmerize spells. I suppose I'll have to reinstall EQLive and record a video (or screenshots if it doesn't work), because it seems people don't care to look at anything beyond lucy, which has several 'unknown' IDs.

I'd be more than willing to look at something from actual gameplay that contradicts the claims made in the links I've posted, though.

[Dersk]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh almost forgot, currently the best mez in the game has a 1% chance of membluring the mob:

Dazzle
Slot Description
1: Mesmerize (2/55)
2: Memblur (1%)

Given the information in the thread here, that should tell you that you're obviously missing information in those two lines out of the dozens of tags associated with each spell.

[Dersk]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think it has anything to do with the level of the mob:

Let's have a serious question here. What will you do to explain the situation when I get back on EQlive when I mez a critter, wait until mesmerize wears off, and it continues on its way as if I did nothing?

I'll check memory blur while I'm at it.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Dersk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've explicitly stated I'm talking about the mesmerize spells. I suppose I'll have to reinstall EQLive and record a video (or screenshots if it doesn't work), because it seems people don't care to look at anything beyond lucy, which has several 'unknown' IDs.

I'd be more than willing to look at something from actual gameplay that contradicts the claims made in the links I've posted, though.

I'm getting my info from the servers:
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...90&source=Live

The test: Find a NPC that give an aggro message and is mezzable. Chain cast Mezz spell by alternating Bliss (40% mem blur) and Sleep (30% mem blur) then Tash (to get aggro). Count the number of time the mem blur component worked by counting the number of aggro message.

Bliss and sleep are level 63 and 64 spells. Of course the memblur effect chance is bigger.
The game in general is easier on Live now than it was ten years ago. And there are AAs for chanters to even further increase the memory wipe component of our spells. Not to mention aggro reducers for all our spells.

I had all these spells on live but I didn't see how they were valid in a P99 discussion so I didn't include them. P99 will never go past level 60.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Dersk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's have a serious question here. What will you do to explain the situation when I get back on EQlive when I mez a critter, wait until mesmerize wears off, and it continues on its way as if I did nothing?

I'll check memory blur while I'm at it.

I will respond with this P99 isn't EQLive and EQLive isn't EQ Classic.
Sorry, that's the best I can come up with. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Malrubius]

Those Lucy percentages don't jive with what I saw in classic at all. I remember being aware that memblur could fail, but it succeeded very often (perhaps more often than not).

Dersk - sorry to have derailed the thread further. I know now that you are concerned with Mez's memblur component. I agree that the Lucy numbers look off there too, relative to what was in Classic, but I have no proof.

[Dersk]

edit: I apologize for the ads.

Mesmerize blurring a wolf and snake. It's a level 5 enchanter to show the caster level isn't relevant.

Mesmerization, the AE mez, successfully blurring kobolds in the warrens. While illegible, the yellow 'worn off' messages are very clear. I do not have any AA's in enhanced forgetfulness.

Mesmerization used to blur the memory of Emperor Crush and Ambasador D'Vinn. I used bind sight since I can get proximity agro even while invisible.

Mesmerize used on several orcs in crushbone.

All of this is done with a spell that has a 1% chance to blur.

Feign Death used to successfully drop agro from several skeletons in Kurn's. I reference this because it works with the same accuracy across the same level range.

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I will respond with this P99 isn't EQLive and EQLive isn't EQ Classic.

You are, however, using EQLIVE values from lucy to argue this point.

I have provided first hand accounts, webarchived spell descriptions and posts, and have now given a video to clearly illustrate and prove the mechanic I am describing.

/bug

[Dersk]

Originally Posted by Malrubius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dersk - sorry to have derailed the thread further. I know now that you are concerned with Mez's memblur component. I agree that the Lucy numbers look off there too, relative to what was in Classic, but I have no proof.

I don't even know if the memory blur spells themselves are working, as I don't have access to them on p1999 yet. I'll cross that bridge when I get to it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[guineapig]

Memblur spells do work. I would say I have a ROUGHLY 50% success rate with Reoccuring Amnesia. With 4 25% chances that seems about right.

I stopped playing on live maybe around 2004 and the chances for a mez to memblur the target seemed to be very similar if not the same is it is here. I very often would get attacked after a warrior broke mez with a taunt and kick, very rarely if I had a Paly or SK using aggro spells.

Dersk, it sounds like you are being defensive in your responses.
Please understand that I am interested in this thread and trying to contribute information. I'm not saying that you are wrong, I'm just posting what I can to add to the discussion.

I know very well that trusting memory alone is not a very accurate method to research things and I also have no idea how spell mechanics have changed on Live over the years since I played there.

Is it possibly that the memory blur component checks on every tic of the mez? That would in theory add to the chance of a blur happening. Honestly I don't know.