Power leveling should be banned.

[Snagglepuss]

Are you kidding?

The Power Leveling Lobby is one of the most powerful special interest groups in Norrath!

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IMO the people that PL in places like Unrest or Crushbone (and this is like 90% of the PLers) are utter douchebags. Whenever i play a new char I am tempted to start a 'PL hall of shame' thread.

Najena is pretty rare though - I guess you were just unlucky there.

Spot on.

Amelinda did say a good while back that PL'ers need to respect high traffic levelling zones such as Unrest/Mistmoore/etc because of this problem.

I think wherever you see this and powerlevellers refuse to move elsewhere its worth a petition, I don't know what the current GMs view is on it but in all honesty I'd stand my ground as a Lvl 20 and make a case to share what is there (let me/my group take what we can and give the rest to the PL group).

Best example I ever had of this was a busy night in MM on my SK quite a while ago. Everything was camped, lake, GY, pit, castle entrance (my group), Dhamp (obviously camped) and there wasn't much to be had.

(Story inc)

Grouped at CE, a PL druid turns up with some level 12 or something, and starts pulling the shit that few groups rarely get to without help... but also pulling some of our stuff with it (mobs near the entrance etc). So we decide to move in by the two gargoyles in the hallway and pull the gypsies and whatever else we can get to. Druid then decides we're being douchebags for slowing down his PL efforts and pulls a shit-ton of stuff as we're fighting to the outside, everything gets social aggro and we wipe.

To top it off, once back in the zone he puts his camp lawyer hat on and then claims CE and says that he's been in the zone longer and if we pull any mobs he'll petition, knowing very well what he just did was an attempt to clear us out/disband us.

Someone make a "Scumbag PL druid" meme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Chedduh]

Originally Posted by Noudess [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We want a classic EQ experience

This is it!

[Safon]

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm in with this complaint. I traveled to south karana, only to see someone pulling the entire aviak tower down and killing it. Wait for respawn, and then repeat. There goes that camp spot. Wow this exp kicks ass!

Yes, it kicks gimp ass.

I've gone to Najena too, and seen an empty zone, but only 2 or 3 people in it, with one always mysteriously /anon. Unrest? Same.

Any place that can be "power pulled" is used to PL people it seems, in the old world. Which sucks. minmax. Jesus. It's an emu server for chrissakes.

And no, this did not happen in classic. People were too busy playing the game, getting epics, trying to get items.

It happened... well, well after the era this server is supposed to capture.

Granted, however, the server is now old. Newcomers are stuck.

A solution would be to eliminate all non-planar loot from the game now, as well as reduce bank accounts to zero for any account more than 6 months old.

"Game Master" -- check it out! A concept!

edit: as it stands, the server simply feels like last year's Fippy prog server, except with limits on boxing and warp traveling. But, grouping? I have seen people log out and say they don;t want to deal with a dungeon crawl, but would be down to go someplace they can be afk a lot and take turns pulling and killing.

I would recommend a revisiting of how this server works so as to penalize PL'ing, and reward actual classic-style gameplay. Otherwise, me and the other "new comers" are kinda realizing this is just a more closely monitored and slow moving SOE prog server, locked up tight by people who own the server. At this point, if SOE were to start another prog server, I would go there if simply to see if they fix some problems from last year's attempts. But this server needs fixing for those of us who wanted to adventure, explore, and yes, maybe have to play carefully so as to avoid nasty corpse runs. In other words, I wanted a challenge. Not an offer to pay someone to PL by hourly rates.

1 - The differences between this server and an SOE prog server are night and day, if you think otherwise you are ignorant or a fool

2 - While a few newbies may get discouraged and leave now and then due to rare instances of pl'ers making things harder on them, most stick around.

3 - The server is healthier than it ever was in its early days, despite being top heavy

4 - The staff here are amazing. If a pler is truly ruining your camp/day, and they refuse to cooperate with you, try petitioning the issue. Be proactive

[Cippofra]

PL'ing wasn't classic? Happened all the time on my server. Entire groups would power level a guildy all the time. Why does everyone feel the need to force every single person on this server to group and have no other options whatsoever? Some of us don't have the option of grouping. If someone can afford it, what's it to you what they do with their money? With the exception of RMT'ers, anyone who has that kind of plat has been through the whole grind anyway. Whats the point of seeing it all a second time? And before the flaming starts, I'm level 10. I'm poor, cant afford a fungi tunic or power leveling. So I'm supporting this from the side that supposedly gets affected by it.

That being said, I do think power levelers should move or adjust if someone else wants just a part of what they're taking. No one should have any right to an entire dungeon or zone if someone else wants in on the action. Been playing here for a year and have only had an issue with a power leveler not sharing once. Most of them are considerate enough to move or simply take the zones they know no one will travel to. Don't let the 10% of the population that are incredibly greedy and selfish to ruin your experience.

[Breeziyo]

thread title made me giggle irl

[joppykid]

I prefer to go to zones with lower population when power leveling so that this doesn't happen... You're already being PLed who cares about ZEM

[Slave]

When some group takes a zone like najena or unrest, and makes the entire zone a personal playground for some level 10 group via normal leveling.. is that in line with what this server wants.

I wanted to go hunt najena with a friend. I am 56, she is 14. Instead a group is pulling every named and mob they can past us as we watch them level.

As a powerleveling group, we can't really get anything going, as the mobs we want are down, and when they pop, we might get 1 or 2 while the normal group pulls everything past us. If we try and go deeper for pulls, entire rooms spawn on the puller on his way back.

I'd argue that normal grouping is WAY worse for the game than 2 boxing (though I hate that also).

I propose a modification that makes it impossible for a character to gain XP from any mob less than double their level - regardless of how the kill is made.

We want a classic EQ experience, or a race to fight of-level dungeons - screwing the population that wants to dominate level 60 spawns?

[Xer0]

Originally Posted by Slave [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When some group takes a zone like najena or unrest, and makes the entire zone a personal playground for some level 10 group via normal leveling.. is that in line with what this server wants.

I wanted to go hunt najena with a friend. I am 56, she is 14. Instead a group is pulling every named and mob they can past us as we watch them level.

As a powerleveling group, we can't really get anything going, as the mobs we want are down, and when they pop, we might get 1 or 2 while the normal group pulls everything past us. If we try and go deeper for pulls, entire rooms spawn on the puller on his way back.

I'd argue that normal grouping is WAY worse for the game than 2 boxing (though I hate that also).

I propose a modification that makes it impossible for a character to gain XP from any mob less than double their level - regardless of how the kill is made.

We want a classic EQ experience, or a race to fight of-level dungeons - screwing the population that wants to dominate level 60 spawns?

attempt at humor failed. OP makes a valid point. cant tell you how much time i've had wasted in Oasis/Gfay because some high level bard is aggro'ing every mob in the zone so his low level friend can kill them.
high post count =/= intelligence

[Galaa]

PLing is classic. It has been done since pre kunark days.

Taking it away would be anti classic, and that isnt what the server is about.