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					Originally Posted by  pickled_heretic
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				"raid force" and "guild" are now synonyms for the purposes of determining raid rules? 
			
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 They have been for quite some time.  Raid leaders were present when this working was decided and agreed upon.  This is how DA at one time was able to claim a raid target with 14 of their own members and 2 from outside their guild.  The total of the raid force was 16 and that was legit.
And that was the first time 2 guilds joined forces to take on a mob.
This is why, as the devs have posted it like 3 times in this thread, pick up raids are completely legit.  Even if a guild has issue with it it is that guild who will loose the devs decision should they break a raid rule to steal a 15+ person PuG's target and get petitioned.