Why the pet exp penalty came about?

[goshozal]

1) It applies to all pet classes, including charmed pets

2) It only applies while solo, and only if the pet does more than 50% of the damage for a given kill. There are ways around this mechanic (mem blur for enchanters, reclaim for mages, and so on).

3) The same penalty was on live, and therefore it was implemented here. The reasoning for it was that mages could do nothing but chain cast fire pets and /afk their way to 50 during vanilla. Verant answered the QQ from other classes with the mighty nerfbat.

[BennoFlo]

Isn't getting around game mechanics through loopholes (killing pet, grouping with someone not in the same zone as you) considered exploiting?

[BennoFlo]

Originally Posted by goshozal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

3) The same penalty was on live, and therefore it was implemented here. The reasoning for it was that mages could do nothing but chain cast fire pets and /afk their way to 50 during vanilla. Verant answered the QQ from other classes with the mighty nerfbat.

From searching around, I think the mechanic was quite different on live in the Kunark era. From Live patch notes:

Situation 1 - You are soloing and you have a summoned pet-
* If you do any damage to the monster at all, you get all of the experience.
* If you don't do any damage to the monster, the pet gets 75% of the experience.

Situation 2 - You are in a group and you have a summoned pet-
* If you or your group do any damage to the monster at all, your group gets all of the experience.
* If you or your group don't do any damage to the monster, the pet gets 75% of the experience.

In my opinion, these rules are much better, and they still prevent afk leveling.

[Somekid123]

Killing pet is not an exploit to getting around it. Grouping with someone outside a different zone would be and was done when you could, but its been nerf'd for over a year now, believe me ive tested it. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[BennoFlo]

I'm sure it just bothers me now because my dps is pretty low on my necro. Once I get higher levels, I'm sure it won't be a problem getting more than 50% dmg.

Now, doing over 50% dmg with spells (fizzles, etc) makes me go oom on one mob.

[Silo69]

Originally Posted by BennoFlo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now, doing over 50% dmg with spells (fizzles, etc) makes me go oom on one mob.

This dosen't change at 52, 55, 58, 59

same situation, you ll end a fight with a blue con and have a few blue but not enough to pull another

with most mobs you fight 55+ have 6-9k hp....

52 dot does 1600 dmg
55 dot does 1000 dmg
58 dot does 2000 dmg

even geared you wont be getting quality xp but you will get xp other than sitting lfg

[BennoFlo]

Originally Posted by Silo69 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This dosen't change at 52, 55, 58, 59

same situation, you ll end a fight with a blue con and have a few blue but not enough to pull another

with most mobs you fight 55+ have 6-9k hp....

52 dot does 1600 dmg
55 dot does 1000 dmg
58 dot does 2000 dmg

even geared you wont be getting quality xp but you will get xp other than sitting lfg

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] This makes me sad... So should you just be expecting to take the 50% hit if you plan on soloing to 60? With the pet class penalty, you sit at -60% modifier if u can't out-dps your pet.

I guess you are soloing at an troll SK rate. :/

Unless you are an iksar necro, then even slower. LOL

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by BennoFlo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sure it just bothers me now because my dps is pretty low on my necro. Once I get higher levels, I'm sure it won't be a problem getting more than 50% dmg.

Now, doing over 50% dmg with spells (fizzles, etc) makes me go oom on one mob.

you really complaining about this? try soloing with a warrior, youll be ooh before the mob is dead. thats out of health if you didnt catch that.

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Somekid123 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Killing pet is not an exploit to getting around it. Grouping with someone outside a different zone would be and was done when you could, but its been nerf'd for over a year now, believe me ive tested it. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What happens if you are grouped with someone too low to get exp? Do you basically get it all then?

[Snagglepuss]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What happens if you are grouped with someone too low to get exp? Do you basically get it all then?

This... Anyone tried it?

Or else we need to contact the Royal Akanon Center for the Advancement of Pet Classes. Or RACAP as they call it.