Raiding Question- TMO

[JerSar]

Originally Posted by Loly Taa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually on "live" GM's rarely if ever did anything except force groups fighting over The Ghoul Lord to roll for the spawn, and that was if you could get a GM to even reply to your petition.

CSR here is leaps and bounds above live. Verant/Sony did not have the sort of tools back then that Sirken and Ephi have now.

I remember on live, people got trained all the fucking time. I never once heard of a GM disbanding any top guild, hell. On live you could cheat like crazy and get away with it- you still can to this day. You could get away with training all day every day unless you were

There's a reason there's no play nice policy here, because it was only enforced on live on petty camp disputes. If people got banned for training on live, Ikikgud would've been booted from Fennin LONG before he was training us regularly (and blatantly) in Vex Thal.

You do realize the bad blood between TMO and their rivals on Fennin is exactly why Vulak was turned into a ring event, don't you? In one instance on Fennin Ro, the solution to a dispute over who got North Temple of Veeshan one night was solved by a GM-forced guildwar.

Lets not talk about who knows what about live, you're bound to look really fucking dumb eventually.

Let's just summarize everything. This isn't Live.

This is an emulation of EverQuest Classic, and it's up to us I would like to think, to make sure that we want it to remain like Live in all possible situations.

TMO should keep trucking along, raiders should either join or fight TMO in an honorable way such as challenging them for monsters.

The more that WE keep making up solutions for problems that are retarded the less this becomes like the classic.

I very readily remember fighting other guilds for monsters, I very readily remember my guild being disbanded for training another guild's raid target.

Stop this declassicification!

[Phatso]

Originally Posted by Loly Taa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We're not going to be doing any more negotiations about "playing nice", and we're definitely not interested in going back to first 15 on spawn.

TMO went into that guild summit and were the only ones initially to agree to "no one sits on spawn point".

The leaders of BDA and FE would have none of that because by their own admission "It's more likely we'll get loot if we sit on spawn and play FTE lottery"

Okay, if you're more likely to get loot socking and playing the FTE lottery- then there is no reason for us to discuss "play nice policies" because it's obvious from the negotiations that this isn't about playing nice or making the raid scene better. It's about designing rules that give those two guilds an advantage they wouldn't normally have and I'm sorry but- We're not stupid enough to do that.

This weeks silly ass ruleset was designed so you'd get a legitimate attempt with no interference if VS or Trak was very late in window- but the hassles it caused us with some of our members simply is not worth trying to bend over for you two. (Which is silly as fuck because if you can't kill an uncontested VS you shouldn't be allowed to call yourselves a raiding guild)

If you'd like later I can fire up Audacity and edit up some of the summit and convey to you some of the choice bits of it, including the leaders of both opposing guilds decrying not sitting on spawn point as a rule because they realize it's the only way they're going to get Trak loots semi-frequently.

So please, lets stop trying to pretend like this is about "playing nice", "getting legitimate attempts at mobs for fun", or not watching "Trak vaporize instantly"

The leaders of BDA and FE made it very clear during the summit what they wanted, and it was simply more loot- if they had to sit on a spawn point and pray for an FTE they were more than willing to do that, and if that is how you want to play? That's great, I can't wait till next time.

You have like 200 fucking members, get over yourself.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Phatso [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have like 200 fucking members, get over yourself.

No, we don't.

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by Loly Taa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember on live, people got trained all the fucking time. I never once heard of a GM disbanding any top guild, hell.

Lets not talk about who knows what about live, you're bound to look really fucking dumb eventually.

a top guild:
The guild Blood of the Spider on The Rathe server was the first guild system-wide to kill Ventani (the fourth warder) on July 28, 2001, and therefore wake the sleeper. The event caused a stir on the server when Kerafyrm went into multiple zones, including Skyshrine, killing everyone and everything in his path.

Originally Posted by Lagaidh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember when BoTS was disbanded by GMs. So much schadenfreude that day.

Originally Posted by Uterus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was Blood of the Spider after we were disbanded because of drama in Plane of Fear.
Years later, during Gates of Discord I believe, a dev reverted us back to our old name, Brotherhood.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Aeon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Happens here too, and will still happen even if they put the SoE Play-nice Policy up as one of the server rules.

GM's have always been slow and have problems gathering enough evidence of the the "crime".
This is no excuse you can make not to put this "rule" into action (except you can't continue acting like the stereotypical TMO asshole).

Why are you arguing a group camp policy?
Also, why are you constantly training TMO camps?

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a top guild:
The guild Blood of the Spider on The Rathe server was the first guild system-wide to kill Ventani (the fourth warder) on July 28, 2001, and therefore wake the sleeper. The event caused a stir on the server when Kerafyrm went into multiple zones, including Skyshrine, killing everyone and everything in his path.

after the first guild woke the sleeper and servers knew what would happen, every guild that woke him should have been reprimanded for zone disruption.

[Tarathiel]

BOOOOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE

[Nneave]

Well, I think the fact this is now in RNF tells us exactly where the devs stand on this discussion.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Aeon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have never trained TMO camps. It's TMO that trained me while I was camping tranix.
As tortue stated; we dont care about tranix.
But ya'll had to train me and grab him anyways, and then run off bridge/over lava towards RF (not even going up stairs to Tranix's room).

Defend it or try twist and spin it around. You will look like a fool nonetheless!

You train us all the time. Consistently and constantly.

[Autotune]

How do you get trained by a shitty shaman?