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Old 11-20-2012, 09:05 AM
Mishami Mishami is offline
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Think about it this way if you're still having trouble... For each of the 6 people in the group, each one will have as many groups where they win 3 items and the rest win nothing. So, it all evens out.
No thats not a for sure fact its something you tell yourself to feel better about the situation. If you really beleived that you wouldnt have a problem making sure everyone in the group got something as well instead of being worried about having the chance of winning multiple items yourself while other members win nothing. You are saying its fair because in the next group that person who lost can win 3 items to themselves but thats still not as fair of a point as making sure everyone in the group gets a greater chance of winning something rather than just 1 or 2 people. I mean you wouldnt even be in the camps getting this stuff if you werent with these people dont you feel any kind of sense to award them for that or is it just all about you?
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:40 AM
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I believe it because it's how the maths works.

You realise there's a 6 in 216 chance of one person winning 3 items and no-one else getting anything? It's also just as likely to be you as anyone else.

So, not only are you quibbling about a rare event, it's also an event that can just as likely go in your favour, making your argument doubly pointless.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:45 AM
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Pre-Kunark, I waned SSoY's and a Djarn's...
So I made guild groups as often as possible.

I obtained these items (along with a FBSS)

NO ONE would go down to Ghoul Lord for a NBG group and pass on a 10k sword....
just because I'm such a nice guy, ya know?

It is what it is.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:58 AM
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Hi Mishami

I have always randomed on greed items, everyone rolls and whoever wins, wins. I have been through droughts of never winning and I have also had phases of winning alot.

All in all its probably evened out.

It is fair in the long run, if you want to look at it on a micro scale of during the course of one group then the results will be different, but it isnt a true reflection of the long term over all picture of a characters life!

I dont think your point is more valid than anyone elses nor do I think people would be better off on your system rather than on this random one. Think yours is just more labour intensive.

Either way if you form a group then set the rules how you like. There is no point to this thread which im sure you know, seems like a troll thread to me.

Zar
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:26 AM
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Hi Mishami

I have always randomed on greed items, everyone rolls and whoever wins, wins. I have been through droughts of never winning and I have also had phases of winning alot.

All in all its probably evened out.

It is fair in the long run, if you want to look at it on a micro scale of during the course of one group then the results will be different, but it isnt a true reflection of the long term over all picture of a characters life!

I dont think your point is more valid than anyone elses nor do I think people would be better off on your system rather than on this random one. Think yours is just more labour intensive.

Either way if you form a group then set the rules how you like. There is no point to this thread which im sure you know, seems like a troll thread to me.

Zar
key word here is probably.. which means you dont know for sure if it is but you would if you made sure everyone got loot in every group. this was the most common loot rule on my sever and people had no problem using the system infact were more in favor of it the majority of the time. I think the majority of the reason people did use it is because it is more fair than greed all. Seems like halo and fps players are trying to make the consensus not just on loot but all aspects of this server. If you want to play on a cutthroat server go play on the pvp server. This is not the sort of population I experienced in live which is a shame because the server was made for people trying to relive what they lived in classic. The people on this server are so worried about fighting over everything they dont even have the mind to want to make sure people in their group helping them get their loot get a peice of the pie too.. Thats a big part of the reason i posted this it developes the way people think to behave on this server. In live the majority of the good pleople who were in the better guilds on the server did not have such a obsession with loot because the type of people with that mentality usually ended up ninja looting or throwing a fit because they didnt win everything they wanted.. kinda like people who think they deserve to roll on everything. Loot whore doesnt mean ninja looter it means someone who think they deserve to roll on all the loot. thats what the term was used for in live just so everyone knows that.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:34 AM
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Pre-Kunark, I waned SSoY's and a Djarn's...
So I made guild groups as often as possible.

I obtained these items (along with a FBSS)

NO ONE would go down to Ghoul Lord for a NBG group and pass on a 10k sword....
just because I'm such a nice guy, ya know?

It is what it is.
Thats not how it was on my server people were more than happy to NBG fbss in a group if the melee needed it. the only time i remember different was because ninja looters but they got the ass end of that not being to app to any decent guild. even the lowbie guilds on my server didnt condone that type stuff. The fact you cant understand regardless of how much a item costs why it should go to the person who can equip it and use it right there kinda makes you a selfish person. you are saying you deserve it over them so you can go sell it so you are pretty much winning the loot and turning around and selling it to the guy in your group who needed it in the first place. not understanding why nbg is important makes you a greedy person by default in any game. With eq its even more important because its even harder to come across these items. Most of the time people also do have another reason for doing these groups...exp... Its not like people always determined what group they were in based upon what loot they would get. if that was the case they could lvl a necro/enc to max and solo the camp.
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:33 AM
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Mishami, you wasting your breath.
I praise your sense of justice, but democracy prevails over you - check this poll.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=87365
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:40 AM
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itt: Mishami doesn't understand, and constantly feels the need to remind everyone.
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OP ends up being inept at one of two things: Basic Math or Social Skills
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:49 AM
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Mishami what's your in-game name?
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:19 PM
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Mishami what's your in-game name?
even though I only do high end cash camps with guildies now pls post ur in game name so I can avoid you like the plague
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