And I raaaaaan, I raaaan so far awaaaayyyy

[Ephi]

The ruling was fair.

I've had a lot of people ask me a lot of different questions and propose a lot of different scenarios.

The spirit of the FTE rule is to award the kill to those who were the first to attempt it. Yes, guilds have gotten away with FTE sniping in the past. Yes, there's a chance they'll get away with it in the future.

It's our job as staff to make the best ruling based on our judgement of the situation, and the facts at hand. I was watching the engage. TMO did not "interfere" with a pull, because the entire raid force was running toward CT. In fact, Drui of TMO took a DT before Scorchin did, and the rest of the force was right behind him.

[Mon Nov 12 11:05:19 2012] Cazic Thule shouts 'Denizens of Fear, your master commands you to come forth to his aid!!
[Mon Nov 12 11:05:19 2012] Cazic Thule says 'DRUI'
-- Authors note: Reset somewhere in here --
[Mon Nov 12 11:05:24 2012] Cazic Thule shouts 'Denizens of Fear, your master commands you to come forth to his aid!!
[Mon Nov 12 11:05:28 2012] Cazic Thule shouts 'SCORCHIN'

TMOs entire raid force was under CT when Scorchin was DTd. No other FE were anywhere near him. The encounter logs support that statement.

Like I said, the FTE rules are there to provide the best level playing ground for the server and all guilds who want to participate. These are not hard and fast, 100% FTE always wins rules. It certainly wins when there are no other facts at the table. But saying FTE is the only thing that matters is like saying you can tag FTE while simultaneously training the other raid... there would be other facts there that inform the decision.

I was in the zone and watched the encounter. I ruled for awarding to TMO and Sirken agrees with my ruling given the facts made available to us (namely, my eyes and the encounter log).

This DOES NOT mean that FTE should become FTD (First to Damage) or some such nonsense that I saw mentioned in OOC or a tell (can't remember which now). FTE is valid as long as the guild is making an attempt at killing the raid mob, and no other factors are present.

And for those of you asking when FTE shout will be implemented -- CT technically does this already. The combination of 'Denizens of fear...' + a DT shout is equivalent to an FTE shout.

[Harazzer]

Originally Posted by Ephi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The ruling was fair.

I've had a lot of people ask me a lot of different questions and propose a lot of different scenarios.

The spirit of the FTE rule is to award the kill to those who were the first to attempt it. Yes, guilds have gotten away with FTE sniping in the past. Yes, there's a chance they'll get away with it in the future.

It's our job as staff to make the best ruling based on our judgement of the situation, and the facts at hand. I was watching the engage. TMO did not "interfere" with a pull, because the entire raid force was running toward CT. In fact, Drui of TMO took a DT before Scorchin did, and the rest of the force was right behind him.




TMOs entire raid force was under CT when Scorchin was DTd. No other FE were anywhere near him. The encounter logs support with that statement.

Like I said, the FTE rules are there to provide the best level playing ground for the server and all guilds who want to participate. These are not hard and fast, 100% FTE always wins rules. It certainly wins when there are no other facts at the table. But saying FTE is the only thing that matters is like saying you can tag FTE while simultaneously training the other raid... there would be other facts there that inform the decision.

I was in the zone and watched the encounter. I ruled for awarding to TMO and Sirken agrees with my ruling given the facts made available to us (namely, my eyes and the encounter log).

This DOES NOT mean that FTE should become FTD (First to Damage) or some such nonsense that I saw mentioned in OOC or a tell (can't remember which now). FTE is valid as long as the guild is making an attempt at killing the raid mob, and no other factors are present.

And for those of you asking when FTE shout will be implemented -- CT technically does this already. The combination of 'Denizens of fear...' + a DT shout is equivalent to an FTE shout.

So in summation there is no question i had FTE, but you feel that TMO deserves the loot instead.

[hatelore]

Originally Posted by doraf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've been on your momma for three years and I still cant figure that fat bitch out.

This gave me a good chuckle, I dont chuckle much on Monday, but when I do... I chuckle good! So to you I say... Cheers for the chuckle!

[doraf]

Originally Posted by Kegluas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Too far bro. His mother is a classy lady.

Damn it! You found her G spot before me?? See, the P1999 raid scene is way easier in comparrison.

Sit back, let TMO get fat and then come in with enough numbers to make them cry. Seems to be working well. This board is filled with crybabies now. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Ephi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And for those of you asking when FTE shout will be implemented -- CT technically does this already. The combination of 'Denizens of fear...' + a DT shout is equivalent to an FTE shout.

So Death Touch = FTE now? What about Innoruuk?

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Harazzer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So in summation there is no question i had FTE, but you feel that TMO deserves the loot instead.

In summation Drui got FTE.

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[hatelore]

The fte rule in its current form ( I thinks it's been changed,bended,re-wrote) whatever, is one of the number one reasons that raiding on p1999 sucks hairy donkey nuts... and why alot of players have said f this and quit outright. Fte shouts etc can't come quick enough. And ephi, without ct saying the players name or what have you, no one but gm's know exactly which guild has fte, one of the main reasons why fte shout is needed. So the other guild can back off.

So by your logic or interpretation of the rule, as long as you get fte then throw your 7 man raid force at the raid target, you're in the clear? That doesn't seem right...

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by doraf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Damn it! You found her G spot before me?? See, the P1999 raid scene is way easier in comparrison.

Sit back, let TMO get fat and then come in with enough numbers to make them cry. Seems to be working well. This board is filled with crybabies now. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Poor kid is still looking for the G-spot. Its roughly an inch and a half in man, ventral wall. Its usually non responsive if the girl isn't excited, maybe that is the problem? You can't excite a woman?

[doraf]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Poor kid is still looking for the G-spot. Its roughly an inch and a half in man, ventral wall. Its usually non responsive if the girl isn't excited, maybe that is the problem? You can't excite a woman?

Dude! I think I'm stuck under her armpit flab. Anyone got a map and compass I can barrow?

[hatelore]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Poor kid is still looking for the G-spot. Its roughly an inch and a half in man, ventral wall. Its usually non responsive if the girl isn't excited, maybe that is the problem? You can't excite a woman?

you do realize you are talking about your mom right? That just isn't right man...