It's official, Obama is coming after your guns

[Black Jesus]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/assault+rifle

assault rifle 
noun
1.
a military rifle capable of both automatic and semiautomatic fire, utilizing an intermediate-power cartridge.
2.
a nonmilitary weapon modeled on the military assault rifle, usually modified to allow only semiautomatic fire. <----------------

dunno how yall missed this

[hatelore]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am not certain on this but I think the main concern with Assualt Rifles is that they are easy to convert to fully auto. I have only handled a few so I am not sure if this goes for all of them but there are kits and/or methods to making the ones I have handled fully auto.

This is far from true, I have done gunsmithing for years and can assure you it isn't as easy to convert to fully auto as most people think. Take a ar 15 for instance, this requires an entirely new receiver to be fully automatic. Check out the difference between a fully automatic m-16 receiver and a semi automatic ar-15 receiver. They are nothing alike. Some guns like the mac-10 are able to be made fully automatic without a ton of work, but theirs a big difference between that and a ar-15 rifle. And I think we are sitting at what 80 million american's owning guns? The gubment of obama will have his hands full if he tries to tackle that task.

And before someone mentions it, yes I know about slidefire, but that is not fully automatic and is very hard control and be accurate since you cant shoot the rifle in its normal manner.

And the 223 round is okay, but its nothing to write home about. It carries a pretty decent trajectory for about 150 to 200 yards without a lot of drop, but its not a very large round. Its cheaper then most larger rifle rounds but it doesnt hold water to say a 7.62 round when it comes to effect and stopping power. Just my 2 cents.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Lowlife [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A Broadened Category of Assault Weapons

While civilian ownership of automatic weapons has been heavily regulated in the U.S. since 1934, most semi-automatic weapons remained legal until 1994.

The AWB defined a broad category of semi-automatic rifles, handguns and shotguns with military-style characteristics as being “assault weapons.” The law made it illegal to make those weapons in the U.S. for a 10-year period. In 2004, the AWB expired when Congress did not vote to renew it. As a result, it became legal to produce and own those firearms once again.

In general, the AWB defined any firearm with a detachable magazine and at least two of certain other characteristics as an assault weapon.

For rifles, those characteristics included:

Telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Grenade launcher
Flash suppressor
For shotguns:

Telescoping stock
Pistol grip
A capacity to hold more than five rounds
For handguns:

Threaded barrels made to attach a barrel extender, handgrip or flash suppressor
A barrel shroud that can be used as a handhold
Weight of at least 50 oz. when unloaded
Nineteen models of firearms were specifically named in the legislation as assault weapons, while other models were included under the umbrella of the law’s definition of assault weapons.

I still don't see why you keep linking me definitions of Assault Weapons when you clearly can't discern the difference between it and Assault Rifle.

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by hatelore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is far from true, I have done gunsmithing for years and can assure you it isn't as easy to convert to fully auto as most people think. Take a ar 15 for instance, this requires an entirely new receiver to be fully automatic. Check out the difference between a fully automatic m-16 receiver and a semi automatic ar-15 receiver. They are nothing alike. Some guns like the mac-10 are able to be made fully automatic without a ton of work, but theirs a big difference between that and a ar-15 rifle. And I think we are sitting at what 80 million american's owning guns? The gubment of obama will have his hands full if he tries to tackle that task.

And before someone mentions it, yes I know about slidefire, but that is not fully automatic and is very hard control and be accurate since you cant shoot the rifle in its normal manner.

And the 223 round is okay, but its nothing to write home about. It carries a pretty decent trajectory for about 150 to 200 yards without a lot of drop, but its not a very large round. Its cheaper then most larger rifle rounds but it doesnt hold water to say a 7.62 round when it comes to effect and stopping power. Just my 2 cents.

ya sorry man, I didn't mean easy as in an idiot like tune could do it. I guess the better word for it would be accessible but even then I may be pushing it. What I am trying to say is that if someone really wants it to be fully auto, they can get it done.

[hatelore]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem is, you can't read very well.

Here, this seems to be more in line to what you believe.

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I got a good laugh out of this one, lol.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Black Jesus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

dunno how yall missed this

Yeah, they should have gone with that, yet they want to argue about Assault rifle definitions by linking me the definition of Assault Weapon.

[SamwiseRed]

good catch
[QUOTE=Autotune;765082]http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/assault+rifle

assault rifle 
noun
1. a military rifle capable of both automatic and semiautomatic fire, utilizing an intermediate-power cartridge.
2.a nonmilitary weapon modeled on the military assault rifle, usually modified to allow only semiautomatic fire.[/QUOTE]

so you kinda fucked yourself there lol

[SamwiseRed]

but again, we can play with words all day, still doesnt change the fact that you have no idea wtf you are talking about.

[Lowlife]

[QUOTE=SamwiseRed;765160]good catch

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/assault+rifle

assault rifle 
noun
1. a military rifle capable of both automatic and semiautomatic fire, utilizing an intermediate-power cartridge.
2.a nonmilitary weapon modeled on the military assault rifle, usually modified to allow only semiautomatic fire.[/QUOTE]

so you kinda fucked yourself there lol

this.

[Autotune]

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Yeah, I like how they label me as the one influenced by media with my definitions.