It's official, Obama is coming after your guns

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Originally Posted by Littlegyno 9.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

M16s and M4s in the Army aren't capable of automatic fire without modification.

I guess the M4 we used in Iraq and shit aren't assault rifles?

They don't have select fire capabilities? You're telling me that all of the M4s were specifically semi-automatic and had no burst fire capabilities?

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Originally Posted by Lowlife [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lets go with, like I said above, the ATF, and not wikipedia.

http://www.atf.treas.gov/pub/fire-ex...b/complete.htm

Semiautomatic assault weapon.

(a) Any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the firearms in any caliber, known as:

(1) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all models),
(2) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil,
(3) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70),
(4) Colt AR-15,
(5) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC,
(6) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12,
(7) Steyr AUG,
(8) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22, and
(9) Revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;


(B) A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of --

(1) A folding or telescoping stock,
(2) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon,
(3) A bayonet mount,
(4) A flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor, and
(5) A grenade launcher;

thanks.

[Littlegyno 9.0]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They don't have select fire capabilities? You're telling me that all of the M4s were specifically semi-automatic and had no burst fire capabilities?

New model M4s didn't have Burst. The old M16s and M4s did however. I don't really consider a 3 round burst automatic fire though.

Edit: At least a new model M4 that I got handed in 2011 didn't have burst.

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Ah so the ability to switch to 3-round burst is the sole factor on whether I am firing an assault rifle or not.

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I can literally make you all look stupid, all day if you want.

[Littlegyno 9.0]

I have no idea what the original argument is anymore. M16's and M4's and AR15 are assault rifles.

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Originally Posted by Littlegyno 9.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

New model M4s didn't have Burst. The old M16s and M4s did however. I don't really consider a 3 round burst automatic fire though.

Edit: At least a new model M4 that I got handed in 2011 didn't have burst.

One of the main parts of the definition of Assault rifle, is having select fire capabilities which includes burst-fire and fully automatic.

Which the AR-15 (including every variation) you buy at wal-mart, or where ever the fuck, does not have and can not have to be legally sold to a citizen.

[SamwiseRed]

You know, I can't even remember if my last M4 had 3-round burst or not while I was deployed to Iraq. Perhaps its because unlimited ammo wasn't enabled. I guess I'll never know if I was carrying an AR or just a semi-automatic rifle. This changes everything.

[Lowlife]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One of the main parts of the definition of Assault rifle, is having select fire capabilities which includes burst-fire and fully automatic.

Which the AR-15 (including every variation) you buy at wal-mart, or where ever the fuck, does not have and can not have to be legally sold to a citizen.

Already proven false by the ATF and by service personnel.

Everyone else in the thread go get some free Applebees tomorrow.

Autotune learn 2 gun.

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Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know, I can't even remember if my last M4 had 3-round burst or not while I was deployed to Iraq. Perhaps its because unlimited ammo wasn't enabled. I guess I'll never know if I was carrying an AR or just a semi-automatic rifle. This changes everything.

Hopefully it will change your intelligence level to were you can properly discern the difference between the definitions of Assault Rifle and Assault Weapon.