The Good, The Bad & The Ugly: Velious

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pssh with PoTG, crack, a manarobe, and an epic. Plus the great mana efficiency of the bane spells Wizards were top DPS only behind monks(if they were good wizards).

Is this all right? I've never played a wiz:


Assuming medding half of the ticks in combat (we'll just call it 10/tick over time), clarity 2 (12), potg (6), cantata (12?), epic (3?), and some FT (5, just for kicks), you're looking at, we'll call it 50 mana regen per tick. JUST casting a bane spell every 2 ticks costs 225 mana per tick.

So with a 3500 mana pool (low for velious? I don't know), you're going to be able to do ~170 dps for ~2 minutes before you drop to maybe 50 dps for the rest of the fight.

You can do more DPS, maybe 75-100 more, by casting another spell while bane is on cooldown and by not getting any med ticks sitting, but then you'll only be able to sustain that level for a minute or so before you're oom and having to wait for regen to cast more.


How long do velious fights last? A fight would only need to last like 3 minutes before rogues and monks are doing more over the whole duration than a wizard, based on this. Plus not everything can be baned. And wizards have burst potential if needed at a certain point, but so do rogues/monks, albeit only once every half hour.

If you mess around using a mana robe to eat epic buff you will be dropping below that ~170 dps because you're probably casting then sitting for a tick every time you want to do it. So you're gaining ~30-40 mana every time you do that but losing 6 seconds of DPS. Get caught in an ae or two and you lose your 3 regen buff and would have to spend 15 seconds recasting epic if you wanted it back up, right?


If this math is wrong, please do correct me. Are rogues doing under 130 dps with velious weapons? Are fights lasting only 90 seconds? Are you basing "wizards do the most damage" off of being twitched or having multiple bards twisting mana for you? How much do melee have to hold back from all-out DPS? ?