prop 37 in Cali

[Spitty]

Originally Posted by doraf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're missing an apostrophie and an "e." But, I typed "educated" in a previous post when I meant "educate," so who am I to correct anyone either. LOL

If we're being pedantic, I twice missed an 'e' and twice missed an apostrophe (correctly spelled here) in that two-part statement. However, good sir, I delightfully inform you now that it was completely intentional and designed to evoke the spirits of those that dwell under yonder bridge.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's hilarious you think this is how it actually works.

I'd love to hear how you think markets function, if it's not people voluntarily trading their pieces of paper for things they value more. Do you really debate that if a business makes a mistake that angers its customers, that business does not lose money?

[doraf]

Originally Posted by Spitty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If we're being pedantic, I twice missed an 'e' and twice missed an apostrophe (correctly spelled here) in that two-part statement. However, good sir, I delightfully inform you now that it was completely intentional and designed to evoke the spirits of those that dwell under yonder bridge.

Oh hey Spit! I've been meaning to direct you to this video.

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[dredge]

^ stay on target

but what a waste of technology, why does it take all that equipment to make a song that sounds like it from a casio 2000 keyboard?

[dredge]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shocking, you'd choose the unaccountable entity that stands to lose nothing if they make a mistake. Any business that accidentally approved a GMO food and labeled it as non-GMO would stand to lose a lot of money if mistakes are made. If the FDA messes up, you can't just stop paying part of your taxes. In fact, such a mistake would likely lead to an increase in funding, as they would claim that they have insufficient resources to do the job.

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EAT IT!

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whoops sorry, here it is:

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now EAT IT!

[Orruar]

You managed to post that picture 3 times in 8 minutes. Yet you still avoid the question: If you believe that the free market is better at providing goods and services, why do you make an exception for food labeling? Give a reasoned and logical explanation on why the market will fail to provide this particular function.

[doraf]

Originally Posted by dredge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

whoops sorry, here it is:

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now EAT IT!

I guess it is hard to govern a state or be taken seriously if you're farting all over the place.

Maybe I can write the labels. "Warning, GMO and gluten! You may grow a tail, get lung cancer, and possibly shoot fire out of your ass. You will definitely have severe anal leakage. Check back side for green and orange poke a dot chart that undeniably proves any other random nonsense I may come up with"

Back off topic. Circuit bent Casio just for you Dredge. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[Orruar]

Originally Posted by FormerlyAMonk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This doesn't apply when "the masses" have become a giant herd of mindless sheep.

Most people don't even know what "GMO" stands for, or how common it is (ie in almost everything we eat.)

As I said before -- I just saw a Kellogs Cornflakes commercial the other night. The commercial told me, several times, that I should buy they products because they're "100% natural."

It's these very companies who've lobbied the very laws that allow them to use such misleading terms. Just like that bottle of whatever you're drinking that probably says "with natural flavors" all over it is anything BUT natural.

Hell almost nothing says "artifically flavored" on it anymore. The food companies essentially lobbied laws that allowed for them to replace "artificial flavors" with "natural flavors" (which refer, technically, to flavors ARTIFICALLY SYNTHESIZED, at least in part, by a natural product containing the flavor being emulated.) It's still totally artificial.

Right, but if people are all just a bunch of mindless sheep, how would democracy solve that? You still need to convince 50% of the population to support this. If they're all stupid and oblivious to GMO, then you fail to pass the law. And as you point out, even if a law is passed, it's likely that the companies being regulated will have their hands all over the regulations and craft them to their advantage.

Companies will respond long before 50% of their customers become upset with them for using GMO foods. If any significant portion of the population shifted their habits and only gave their money to companies that truly satisfied their needs, you'd see businesses shift their production methods. I think the problem the GMO people have at this point is that many people simply don't believe all the GMO hype, and so they won't shift their habits. So it is their job to try and change minds. They are apparently failing at doing that on their own, so they're hoping labeling laws will do the job for them. Even if labeling laws have some benefit to society, it's still wrong to use these laws as a scare tactic.

[dredge]

If its so easy to vote with your wallet then I challenge you to go to the regular store and buy food to feed a family of four for a day without buying any GMOs.

Let us know how it turns out