prop 37 in Cali

[dredge]

I'm still confused how you two think the private sector "using market forces" is supposed to accomplish and replace what the FDA is there to do.

[Spitty]

Originally Posted by Hailto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, your*

Your right.

Your missing a period, by the way.

[doraf]

Originally Posted by Ephirith
The motivation behind this shit is almost purely irrational fear of esoteric science. That's what this is about. It's hilarious to me that such a large group of people would raise such a fuss about some genetically modified food potentially causing harm.

Meanwhile, more than 50% of them are overweight, and a similar proportion scarfs down potato chips, cheeseburgers, and copious amounts of sugar on a daily basis... thoroughly destroying the health of their bodies.

Oh shit! What if this genetically altered food might give me cancer? I don't know if it does or not, so it clearly does! Nom noms nom nom... mmmm bacon

Originally Posted by dredge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You obviously know nothing on the subject. Why don't you read up and come back when you have some facts

You should educated Ephirith with some green and orange dots or an article about rats w/ no baseline tests conducted. Then will he will understand the way of the ManBearPig like the rest of us. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Spitty]

Originally Posted by dredge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm still confused how you two think the private sector "using market forces" is supposed to accomplish and replace what the FDA is there to do.

I'm still confused how you think denying Prop 37 and refusing to label GMO products are the same.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by dredge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm still confused how you two think the private sector "using market forces" is supposed to accomplish and replace what the FDA is there to do.

After I gave a couple examples? You'd make a terrible businessman, but don't worry, we still need people to do the manual labor.

Here's a hint of how free market regulation works: Underwriter's Laboratories

Question: If there were two foods, one labeled as non-GMO by the FDA, and one labeled and non-GMO by a reputable testing company, which would you prefer, all other things being equal? If you choose the FDA product, why?

[doraf]

Originally Posted by dredge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You obviously know nothing on the subject. Why don't you read up and come back when you have some facts

Originally Posted by Spitty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your right.

Your missing a period, by the way.

You're missing an apostrophie and an "e." But, I typed "educated" in a previous post when I meant "educate," so who am I to correct anyone either. LOL

[Shaun421]

I haven't even played this shit for a year, but honestly, this discussion drove me up a wall.

WE GET IT. You dont like GMOs. You want to know what products contain them.

We're talking about fucking PROP 37 and the LANGUAGE contained in that specific prop. Get off you're fucking hippy high horse and READ what people are trying to tell you. Many of whom AGREE with your stance on the labels.

In addition to the potential damage to "mom and pop" shops, Prop 37 would have opened the door to all sorts of frivilous (fuck you spelling) lawsuits, akin to the ADA bullshit suits. Prop 37 allowed ANYONE to file a suit against any company alleged of failing to meet the new regulation, regardless if that party received damages in any sort of way. This can be extrapolated to mean anyone could sue a company without even needing PROOF of a violation. The burden is now on business to defend themselves against baseless accusations that caused no harm, EVEN IF THE COMPANY DID EVERYTHING BY THE LAW.

We don't need any more fucking bullshit suits. They either A, clog up an already fucked court system, or B, companies settle out of court to avoid court costs of defending themselves, which encourages more bullshit suits.

It was a poorly written proposition. Good intention, we all love transparency, but fucking READ what the shit says before you whip out your graphs and argue something that no one was even talking about.

Fuck.

[dredge]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

After I gave a couple examples? You'd make a terrible businessman, but don't worry, we still need people to do the manual labor.

Here's a hint of how free market regulation works: Underwriter's Laboratories

Question: If there were two foods, one labeled as non-GMO by the FDA, and one labeled and non-GMO by a reputable testing company, which would you prefer, all other things being equal? If you choose the FDA product, why?

lol, manual labor, ok, I'm not above getting my hands dirty
and I'm no where near being a hippie other guy.

I would choose the FDA because it's the one in the position and the authority to regulate.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by dredge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would choose the FDA because it's the one in the position and the authority to regulate.

Shocking, you'd choose the unaccountable entity that stands to lose nothing if they make a mistake. Any business that accidentally approved a GMO food and labeled it as non-GMO would stand to lose a lot of money if mistakes are made. If the FDA messes up, you can't just stop paying part of your taxes. In fact, such a mistake would likely lead to an increase in funding, as they would claim that they have insufficient resources to do the job.

[Ephirith]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Any business that accidentally approved a GMO food and labeled it as non-GMO would stand to lose a lot of money if mistakes are made. If the FDA messes up, you can't just stop paying part of your taxes.

It's hilarious you think this is how it actually works.