Fastest PL - Ench, Shaman or Monk? Friendly wager anyone?

[KentalCowtipper]

After my EC thread was trolled by Orruar and Lorean - who both claim that as a shaman and and enchanter they can PL a melee faster (or hell any class - I'll take this bet for a caster too) I'd like to offer a friendly wager.

I'm not denying that both of these guys are near the top for their respective classes; both are skilled solo artists (on solo artist challenge thread). What I am saying is that they cannot provide a more efficient PL than a quality monk. Therefore what I'd like to purpose is a power-level competition.

We'd get the same melee (or caster) and we each power level them for 1 hour, keeping track of the total # of mobs killed. We could do it 1 on 1 or we could do it best out of the 3 of us wins it all. I'd be willing to put up 20k - 100k on this wager.

So c'mon guys. You want to post on my EC Forum PL thread that you can do it better as a shaman or ench? Put your plat where your big mouths are and lets get this rolling.

Flippie

[Eyry]

Mage would win...

[pasi]

This really depends on level.

Shaman (DS pots) or Druids rape powerleveling low levels. I don't think this is disputable.

Monk might win the mid-level, but I still think Shaman wins here.

Enchanters are going to be kings of high-level power level. I don't think this is disputable.

[pasi]

Not to mention, the class you're power leveling has a huge impact. For example, if the class can AE a point of damage - shamans are going to be gods with DSs.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by pasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This really depends on level.

Shaman (DS pots) or Druids rape powerleveling low levels. I don't think this is disputable.

Monk might win the mid-level, but I still think Shaman wins here.

Enchanters are going to be kings of high-level power level. I don't think this is disputable.

We were mostly talking about higher levels in that thread. The rate he had claimed (90 min for half of 53 on a warrior) is the same rate I achieved before epics. I'd imagine it's better now, as I was clearing 2/3 of north wing HS while PL'ing a 59 warrior the other day. I've never witnessed enc PL, but it could theoretically be much better than anything else. You'd need a lot of high level mobs though, as I'm sure it would be tough for an enc to break charm and recharm about once per minute as I was doing in HS. Maybe not though, I don't play an enc often enough.

Up until 20 or so, druid is certainly best. I think monk may be best in mid levels, as certain changes to the game (particularly mob run speed) have greatly affected shaman mid level PL. It was great back in the day, pulling 1/3 of solA at a time, letting ds rape the mobs and then have the level 20 avatar'ed melee kill the runners. Also, monk really shines against mobs 20 levels below them.

I'm pretty confident that shaman is best for 50+ though, and I'll gladly take this wager once I do a little more work on my technique. Haven't been in the business much since getting epic.

Also, the mob count metric is a poor idea. I highly doubt a monk is going to PL in HS where so much HT damage must be absorbed. So we'd be PL'ing in different areas with different ZEMs, mob levels, etc. xp gain is the only important metric. Also, we'd have to agree on certain conditions of the PL'ee. Shaman PL is much more dependent on both the gear and skill of the person being PL'ed. I know monk PL does require the person have some moderate skill and gear, but the xp gain isn't wildly different if the person has haste or not, etc.

[pasi]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We were mostly talking about higher levels in that thread. The rate he had claimed (90 min for half of 53 on a warrior) is the same rate I achieved before epics. I'd imagine it's better now, as I was clearing 2/3 of north wing HS while PL'ing a 59 warrior the other day. I've never witnessed enc PL, but it could theoretically be much better than anything else. You'd need a lot of high level mobs though, as I'm sure it would be tough for an enc to break charm and recharm about once per minute as I was doing in HS. Maybe not though, I don't play an enc often enough.

I'm pretty confident that shaman is best for 50+ though, and I'll gladly take this wager once I do a little more work on my technique. Haven't been in the business much since getting epic.

Theft of Thought alone would give enchanters enough mana to charm once a minute in a place like Howling Stones where most of the mobs are SKs. Breaking isn't a problem with a Gazughi.

But yeah, I agree monk is out-of-the-fucking question for 50+ power leveling.

With that said, I've only really power leveled 40+ in SolB and Highkeep. Howling Stones would be much better, but the 2 people I've powerleveled didn't have a HS key.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by pasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Theft of Thought alone would give enchanters enough mana to charm once a minute in a place like Howling Stones where most of the mobs are SKs. Breaking isn't a problem with a Gazughi.

But yeah, I agree monk is out-of-the-fucking question for 50+ power leveling.

With that said, I've only really power leveled 40+ in SolB and Highkeep. Howling Stones would be much better, but the 2 people I've powerleveled didn't have a HS key.

Yeah, but enc have other duties as well. Haste, rune occasionally, root?, calm? I'm not familiar enough with enc PL to know the exact technique. Perhaps with mem blur, they don't even need to break and recharm each mob. I certainly wouldn't put money against an enc without knowing how their PL works and actually witnessing it. And that's really the reason for posting in the EC threads. It wasn't because we were competing for business. I rarely PL anymore and always have plenty willing to pay for it. It just seems ignorant to claim to have the fastest PL on the server when you have no to limited experience with other classes' PL.

[KentalCowtipper]

Originally Posted by pasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Theft of Thought alone would give enchanters enough mana to charm once a minute in a place like Howling Stones where most of the mobs are SKs. Breaking isn't a problem with a Gazughi.

But yeah, I agree monk is out-of-the-fucking question for 50+ power leveling.

With that said, I've only really power leveled 40+ in SolB and Highkeep. Howling Stones would be much better, but the 2 people I've powerleveled didn't have a HS key.

Pasi you really said that a monk is out of the question? Maybe most monks can't do it effectively. See my post to Orruar why I know I can.
Over 50% in 90 minutes for a pure melee - warrior - at lvl 53 the other night.

[Vadd]

Having had various PL's by both Flippie and Orruar in the past across several characters...

Orruar is a fucking beast...

but Flippie is the best.

not trollin... just the facts.

[lolondar]

lol ill accept the PL on my rogue pally or necro :P lol the necro is not twinked in any way the rogue has good weapons and probably lvl appropriate armor and the pally has a good sword and like no armor so :P best way to do it would be to power level 3 different people of the same class race or just 1 person with 3 different characters