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Old 06-10-2010, 12:44 PM
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One theory I have for Innoruuk lying at the center runs on an obvious interpretation:

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Followers of Innoruuk, the Prince of Hate, include nearly the entire dark elven race who regard him as their "Father". They believe that hate is a creative force, or rather "THE" creative force in the universe - creativity born of destruction ... It is the honest belief of the followers of Innoruuk that if they were to hate strongly enough, they could destroy all of Norrath.
What is Mistmoore's relationship with Innoruuk? I understand that MM has previously thwarted the efforts of Lanys T'Vyl, a chosen of Inny. Are they in opposition?
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Old 06-10-2010, 01:29 PM
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After additional work with Cyrano and Mixxit, we have another revised version of the pictogram:

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THINGS OF NOTE:
1. The center contains gods who created a race: Prexus and Kedge, Innoruuk and the Dark Elves, Brell and the Underfoot, Tunare and the Elves.
2. Joining these forces of creation at the center are two forces that wield the power to destroy: Aeteok and Enoxus, the swords used by an avatar of The Nameless to keep gods in check, and Mayong Mistmoore, who ascended to godhood after usurping Ayonae Ro.
3. The exterior contains events that have left a massive impression on the world of Norrath. The symbols tell of the first races, the rise of Bertoxxulous, the rise of Cazic Thule, the rise and/or fall of Rallos Zek (another force of creation: Ogres) the Marr Twins (another force of creation: Barbarians and Frogloks), the end of the Shissar Empire, the first brood of Dragons, and so on.

What can we determine from this information presented together as a single symbol? Why does Innoruuk, a resentful god that was late to the party, lie most prominently at the center?
If I'm right, then it means Innoruuk is not represented in the center circle, and gods in the center of this depiction are not there because they are the gods who created a race.
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Old 06-10-2010, 01:40 PM
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Maybe they're there because they're good gods and hold hatred in check. Though the 4 gods directly on the outside in the original symbol represent four more evil gods right? War, pestilence, ...

Which gods were all represented in the plane of time? What was the name of the goddess of time and is she depicted on the clock of the world? Is Zeb and his machinations against the gods related anywhere?
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After additional work with Cyrano and Mixxit, we have another revised version of the pictogram:

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THINGS OF NOTE:
1. The center contains gods who created a race: Prexus and Kedge, Innoruuk and the Dark Elves, Brell and the Underfoot, Tunare and the Elves.
2. Joining these forces of creation at the center are two forces that wield the power to destroy: Aeteok and Enoxus, the swords used by an avatar of The Nameless to keep gods in check, and Mayong Mistmoore, who ascended to godhood after usurping Ayonae Ro.
3. The exterior contains events that have left a massive impression on the world of Norrath. The symbols tell of the first races, the rise of Bertoxxulous, the rise of Cazic Thule, the rise and/or fall of Rallos Zek (another force of creation: Ogres) the Marr Twins (another force of creation: Barbarians and Frogloks), the end of the Shissar Empire, the first brood of Dragons, and so on.

What can we determine from this information presented together as a single symbol? Why does Innoruuk, a resentful god that was late to the party, lie most prominently at the center?
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One theory I have for Innoruuk lying at the center runs on an obvious interpretation:

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Followers of Innoruuk, the Prince of Hate, include nearly the entire dark elven race who regard him as their "Father". They believe that hate is a creative force, or rather "THE" creative force in the universe - creativity born of destruction ... It is the honest belief of the followers of Innoruuk that if they were to hate strongly enough, they could destroy all of Norrath.
What is Mistmoore's relationship with Innoruuk? I understand that MM has previously thwarted the efforts of Lanys T'Vyl, a chosen of Inny. Are they in opposition?
Lanys may be the chosen of Inny, but they don't have the best father/daughter relationship. If I remember correctly , Lanys tried to destroy Innoruuk and had an affair with Mistmoore as well, but I don't remember how it ended.

It could be that Innoruuk or Hate is represented in the center of the circle as it was his hatred of the high elves that created the dark elves. Additionally, if the power of hate is represented, it would follow with the prophecy of destruction.
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And some info on the GM event that opened the Plane of Sky, and more about the veil:

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For those who collect the knowledge of Norrath, here is a story that was told to me last ngiht while travelling though Plane of Knowledge. A Barbarian woman, Gara Tidyngs, appeared and began her tale....


T’was a long time ago, ere your time. Even the Dwarves have lost memories of that event. After Veeshan had brought life to Norrath; She settled into the Plane of Sky and drew a veil across the chasm separating the dragon plane from us. Than she fell into a long and peaceful slumber.

So too did the dragons still left on Norrath, as their strength was derived from the Plane, and the Veil kept them from exercising their magical powers.
Ya see, lads and lasses, the Ring of Scale dinna take kindly to mortals meddling in their affairs, and the Veil did well to prevent that.

Aye; but the Dragons slept; and the Veil fell into neglect; until mortals began to find cracks and once more make inroads into the Plane of Sky.

On Norrath; the dragon Zavo’Zatanov and her accomplices were determined to remove the Veil and restore the power to the Ring of Scale. Not your normal group of travelers were these. Though they called themselves brother and sister; they were clearly not so.

Zavo, a High Elven woman of exquisite beauty; Rals’Zezonis, strongly Human; Sarethsin’Kaz, a typically snobby Erudite; and rounding out this already peculiar group was a Troll named Soreg’Sslisn.

Great Rewards and Dangerous Adventure they promised, fortune and glory to all who could hear, and not an ear on the land missed their call. And what could possibly be the goal of such a motley group, forcing them to enlist the aid of total strangers?
Like a knife, the next two words sliced through the cold night air, silencing all within hearing

“Lady Vox.“ Lady Vox holds that which we seek.

Through Blackburrow did they Venture; the Gnolls rejoicing that they did not stay their journey. Thence through Everfrost, which some say melted a little under the presence of such a horde.
On to Permafrost, the lair of Lady Vox.

The group paused, casters with their noses buried deep within their books, murmuring arcane phrases; warriors unsheathing their blades, donning helms, whilst the smaller folk faded in and out of view. Suddenly; out of the bleak mountains of Ever frost a voice rang out. That is when they first heard:

”Vile Children of Scale, Your Efforts are wasted this Day! You were fools to think you could stand against the fury of Mistmoore!”

The sound echoed off the cavern walls. Out of the shadows sprung the horror, three Tier’Dal soldiers; Agents of the dreaded Vampire Lord. Lord Galendor, nightmare of Mistmoore and chief enforcer of Mayong himself; led the charge leveling a furious attack at the High Elven woman, Zavo, before they had any time to react. Khasra Vei’Ras was not far behind, and a Tier’Dal Priestess lent support from the shadows . . . D’shar was her name. Now; fighting a Tier’Dal Agent of the Vampire Lord might not seem to be such a difficult task . . . Until you turn and look to see her very life slipping away, slowly dripping down her tunic and staining the ground. This unholy union of Rage and Wit, Chaos and Order . . . it sticks with you.

mesmerized; you see that Gara Tidyngs speaks of this with more than just a passing acquaintance with the issue

Zavo and her companions defended themselves well, but they could have never lasted on their own. Luckily; they prepared themselves, enlisting the aid of some of the greatest that Norrath offered. The battle Was bloody, and before they even had time to organize themselves into some semblance of order, forty had become twenty. The tide began to turn for the heroes when one of the young Half Elf Warriors discovered the Tier’Dal cleric D’shar hiding in a corner and quickly dispatched her. Without a healing force, the Tier’Dal had no hope for Victory this day.

Galendor fell almost immediately, and Khasra, badly wounded, stumbled backwards and uttered a few cryptic words.

What followed sent a chill throughout the bones of all who were there to witness, and these were battle-hardened veterans that have seen some of the worst that Norrath had to offer. Ya see, the shadows crept out from the very stones beneath her feet, reaching up to envelop the Tier’Dal woman, swallowing her into darkness.

Little did they know that while this was taking place, a dwarf rogue by the name of Kivgor Illbria had snuck into Vox’s Lair and had purloined the Shard. Loud and foul were the cries of anguish rumbling through the bowels of Permafrost when Vox discovered the Shard missing. Just as loud too were the cries of glee from Kivagor, taunting Vox for letting down her guard.

His luck failed him, though.

As he was about to make good his escape through the gates of the cavern, Kivgor ran headlong into Zavo’s group. Proud of his accomplishment, Kivgor waved the Shard before them, but his pride quickly turned to anguish when he discovered that this was the very Shard they were hunting.

He attempted to flee, but they caught him and challenged him for rightful ownership of the Shard. Badly outnumbered, Kivgor stood nay chance at all, but he still fought for the Shard. His Dying words echoed throughout the chamber . . .

“Fie on You, accursed Mistmoore! I fall in your favor, but now you be without your precious Trinket!”

Mistmoore, mentioned Twice now? What role could Mistmoore play in this Drama?

Ya see; Mayong Mistmoore was the bitter enemy of the Ring of Scale, and he wanted nothing more than to possess the Shard and thereby control access to the Plane of Sky.

With all due haste, Zavo’s group journeyed to the Rathe Mountains, where the final partitioning of the Veil was to take place. Surrounded by their mortal supporters, Zavo and her friends shed their illusions and stepped forward to reveal their true dragon nature. However, before Zavo could reveal herself, the sky was suddenly filled w’shadows, while faint laughter swirled through the rising wind. A harsh voice, filled w’hatred and disgust, echoed through the mountainsides:

”Children of Scale! You Shall Not Succeed this Night! I Will make sure of It!”
“For centuries you have evaded me. Now this will end. Everything you possess . . . Is but a waste.”

T’was the very voice of Mayong Mistmoore, challenging them for possession of the Shard.

Quickly, the mortals sprang for the defense of the Scale, but it was too late for the doomed party. One by one; Mistmoore’s cold vampiric touch enveloped them in a misty vapor, draining their life and strengthening his. Fighting valiantly, the mortals appeared to be on the verge of victory, when suddenly Mayong faded from view, eluding their attacks. The shadows quickly retreated back to the corners and stones from which they were issued, their tendrils rising in the air and the sound of a thousand shrieks echoing throughout the Mountains of Rathe.

As the shadows slithered from view; a voice was heard, faintly hissing these words of defeat:

”You have won this Day, Children of Scale . . . But it will not be the last battle that you will face. Rend your Veil and harness your powers, it shall do nothing for you. You shall All perish, dragon and mortal alike, and your corpses shall rot at my feet.”
For this I can assure you. Until that night comes, I bid thee a good morrow, and sleep well . . .

The voice trailed off into a sadistic laughter that hung within the air for what seemed like an eternity before fading into the wind.
Alas, Zavo mourned the loss of her beloved companions, cursing the name of Mistmoore. Determined to complete the quest which she had started; she called forward the human who had most distinguished himself into the battle. She asked him if he was ready for the final task, to die by the shard, spilling his blood upon the earth of Norrath so that the Veil would be sundered forever.

He paused not a moment before nodding in agreement.

After performing the sacrifice and resurrecting the hero, Zavo presented him w’the Shard, which became known thereafter as the Crystalline Claw of Veeshan. A mighty and powerful weapon.

Furthermore in the realms of the Scale was his act bravely sung.

Thus did the Veil of Veeshan become torn, and the realms of Mortals and Scale did mingle.

The Dragons of Norrath were once more restored in power and glory; a fitting position for the Ring of Scale.

Of the outcome of the battle between Mistmoore and the Ring of Scale, we can only guess. I am certain that the final pages of that Act have not been written.
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Which gods were all represented in the plane of time? What was the name of the goddess of time and is she depicted on the clock of the world? Is Zeb and his machinations against the gods related anywhere?
Zeb is more or less the god of knowledge, and wants to share that knowledge, even when it goes against the will of every other God.

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Druzzil Ro speaks with no movement of her mouth. Her thoughts flow through you, calming you as you begin to comprehend what she is trying to communicate to you.

Druzzil Ro speaks to your mind, 'Zebuxoruk, my student I cannot allow this to happen. If you were to escape from another prison the will and power of the gods will have been compromised.'

Zebuxoruk says, 'Druzzil, I have missed you. Wasn't it you that taught me in your own realm to seek knowledge and share it in all forms?'

Druzzil Ro speaks to your mind, 'That I did, but I also taught you not to share your wealth of knowledge if it would affect the fate of others. I cannot allow this to happen. I must set things back to how they were before you and these mortals arrived here, I believe that you cannot understand this and I am sorry.'
from the Plane of Time, after Quarm is defeated.
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Right, and Druzzil Ro then rewound the timeline to a point that preceded the mortal invasion of the Planes of Power. This singular event created the timeline schism that permits EverQuest II to exist.
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I feel like I've somehow reloaded Myst onto my computer.
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Does this clock go counter clockwise?
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The events on the clock do not appear to occur in a chronological order.

For example: the Rune of Sundering and the Rune of Vul were discovered at the same time, by Rikantus Everling, but they foretell events that happened not only very far apart, but in entirely different timelines. The Sundering of Luclin never happens in EverQuest 1's timeline, because it was avoided by Druzzil Ro's timeline reset. The Void, in contrast, is an element found in both EQ1 and EQ2, it is the Nothingness from which Norrath was formed by The Nameless. The Void is also home to the Shadow Men and Ashanti'sul, the former Prime Healer (who was succeeded by Rodcet).
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