Tranquil Staff: Need Before Greed?

[kaev]

I have a question: Is this entire thread just some sort of long convoluted troll by somebody with 30 different forum accounts and way too much free time?

[Dragonzord]

Originally Posted by Tarathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

im going to go ahead and stop this train of thought right here. i dont know you anymore than i know tommy from the power rangers. just because im in the same group as you doesnt all of a sudden mean we are best friends and that i want to see you get all yer shiny lewts. if you are grouping at a cash camp(lcy, king, crypt) you better be prepared to see your fancy tstaff walk away with a wizard or your jbb in the hands of a rogue. its going to happen. and why shouldn't it? they put in the exact same amount of time and effort as you did and should have the exact same chance at loot, end of story.

Jesus man, you realize this loot has no worldly value (unless you RMT ofc.) Why would you not help a fellow group member out with some gear. The P99 playerbase is so wack man. Even if this server was 99% classic from UI to code to w/e, the playerbase is not. The WoW generation have turned this social mmo into GearQuest. Have fun.

[Tarathiel]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a question: Is this entire thread just some sort of long convoluted troll by somebody with 30 different forum accounts and way too much free time?

most likely

[OmeggaNog]

Originally Posted by Dragonzord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jesus man, you realize this loot has no worldly value (unless you RMT ofc.) Why would you not help a fellow group member out with some gear. The P99 playerbase is so wack man. Even if this server was 99% classic from UI to code to w/e, the playerbase is not. The WoW generation have turned this social mmo into GearQuest. Have fun.

I hate to break it to you, since you obviously didnt' play EQ during it's humble beginnings, but this is how it was. WoW wasn't even a forethought in Blizzard's mind when this kind of thing was happening in EQ.

And you keep spouting that the loot has no value, like you're too cool to care about silly pixels. If that's the case, than you really shouldn't give two squirts of piss whether a TStaff went to a monk, or a shaman, or just dropped on the ground and left to rot, amirite?

Yet somehow, the thought of loot going to anyone else except the guy you think "deserves" it more has your jimmies all rustled.

Interesting. Seems you care about dem silly pixels enough to spend your morning with your panties in a wad on some forums about silly pixels.

[Narienna]

Just going to add my 2 cents here as someone who has spent the last 2 months levelling entirely in random dungeon groups (not in a guild currently).

I've seen plenty of big ticket items (Fungi, Hiero Cloak, etc.) drop and many more smaller items. Frequently the smaller items (1-2k tops) are given to anyone who can use them, but you're not going to find a pug group just let you NBG anything more expensive. Personally, I think you're the one being greedy here - Their time is just as valuable as yours.

Truth be told, if you did end up ninja-looting that staff I think you'd be screwing yourself out of finding any future groups. From personal experience, the vast majority of people would disagree with you here.

[Dragonzord]

Originally Posted by OmeggaNog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hate to break it to you, since you obviously didnt' play EQ during it's humble beginnings, but this is how it was. WoW wasn't even a forethought in Blizzard's mind when this kind of thing was happening in EQ.

And you keep spouting that the loot has no value, like you're too cool to care about silly pixels. If that's the case, than you really shouldn't give two squirts of piss whether a TStaff went to a monk, or a shaman, or just dropped on the ground and left to rot, amirite?

Yet somehow, the thought of loot going to anyone else except the guy you think "deserves" it more has your jimmies all rustled.

Interesting. Seems you care about dem silly pixels enough to spend your morning with your panties in a wad on some forums about silly pixels.

Damn, looks like I upset another emotional man baby. Sorry pal if you feel differently. It is impossible to reason with unemployed min/maxers who's entire life revolves around an emulated mmo. I wish you the best!

[Tarathiel]

if everything was always NBG you wouldnt even be able to find a group at 75% of the cash spots in this game...... good luck finding a rogue to open the crypt doors for you if he cant roll on a JBB or hiero cloak if it drops. or good luck finding a cleric to heal you at king if he cant roll on the fungi. this isnt some new concept here, in fact its about as classic as eq can get.

[Dragonzord]

Originally Posted by Tarathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if everything was always NBG you wouldnt even be able to find a group at 75% of the cash spots in this game...... good luck finding a rogue to open the crypt doors for you if he cant roll on a JBB or hiero cloak if it drops. or good luck finding a cleric to heal you at king if he cant roll on the fungi. this isnt some new concept here, in fact its about as classic as eq can get.

I didn't say everything should be NBG. How the situation sounded to me was that they were experiencing, and the staff dropped. It wasn't a planned group camping that mob, it was an xp group. The staff was random and the only person who could have used it was a monk and it would have been an upgrade for him. Seems like common sense. Now if a group decided to camp a Fungi tunic for the sake of the item, ofc i can see everyone greed rolling. We are talking about a nerfed t staff, not a hiero cloak.

[cyryllis]

going to sum this all up and make it nice and easy for some of the people with less reading comprehension/ reasoning skills:


Tstaff- not common...not a camp you are sitting at for the sole intention of getting a tstaff. It is usually just normal exp group, and when one drops, its a bonus for the whole group.

Oh btw, comparing giving a tstaff to a greedy monk to giving some noob paladin a ghoulbane? What a joke- Tstaff 30k...ghoulbane 600pp.

Fungi tunic camp- so you are saying this camp should ONLY be done by characters who can use the tunic? So no ench/mage/wiz/nec should EVER do that camp, because they arent deserving of the 50k? Newsflash, some of us still need items we can't afford. Thanks for denying my main the chance to buy items that benefit me because you are so greedy.

Do you think when manastones and rod of annihilation dropped they should have auto gone to casters?

Shit reminds me of idiots on live at frenzied ghoul camp who insisted they should get FBSS over everyone else because they werent wearing one. Same people you see a week later selling it.

ITT: People who can reason, and people who think that since they rolled a melee class, they should get all the loot. Not that much good caster gear rolling around at most camps buddy. Good luck getting heals, buffs, cc, etc.

Just because you play games, doesnt mean you should act retarded- you are making the rest of us look bad.

[Dragonzord]

Originally Posted by cyryllis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

going to sum this all up and make it nice and easy for some of the people with less reading comprehension/ reasoning skills:


Tstaff- not common...not a camp you are sitting at for the sole intention of getting a tstaff. It is usually just normal exp group, and when one drops, its a bonus for the whole group.

Oh btw, comparing giving a tstaff to a greedy monk to giving some noob paladin a ghoulbane? What a joke- Tstaff 30k...ghoulbane 600pp.

Fungi tunic camp- so you are saying this camp should ONLY be done by characters who can use the tunic? So no ench/mage/wiz/nec should EVER do that camp, because they arent deserving of the 50k? Newsflash, some of us still need items we can't afford. Thanks for denying my main the chance to buy items that benefit me because you are so greedy.

Do you think when manastones and rod of annihilation dropped they should have auto gone to casters?

Shit reminds me of idiots on live at frenzied ghoul camp who insisted they should get FBSS over everyone else because they werent wearing one. Same people you see a week later selling it.

ITT: People who can reason, and people who think that since they rolled a melee class, they should get all the loot. Not that much good caster gear rolling around at most camps buddy. Good luck getting heals, buffs, cc, etc.

Just because you play games, doesnt mean you should act retarded- you are making the rest of us look bad.

lol wut? oh so when does an item become "greed only" loot rules since the ghoulbane is lolcheap? please tell me when an item becomes too valuable to let someone to need it.

giving the t staff to a greedy monk? its its an upgrade and he is going to USE the damn thing there is no greed about it. If he is lying or goes and sells it then ya you can say hes greedy but thats not the case here.

i never said classes who cant use fungi shouldnt camp it. not sure where you pulled that one out of. I am saying people dont camp fungi for the insane xp. they go there with the purpose of getting that item so ofc everyone can roll on it. kinda like raiding, people go there with the intention of getting drops. this wasnt the case for the t staff.

the fbss point, ya its bs when people go around needing it only to turn around and sell it but im not going to lose any sleep over it lol. I guess if you are playing this game with the soul purpose of gearing your self and saying fuck you to the everyone else then ofc your reasoning would be to greed everything. sad times we live in.