Paladin: high elf or half elf?

[Ferok]

Originally Posted by Vidar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, Paladins are tanks first and foremost. Stam is what you need. second id say str is what you need. I played a pally on live to lvl 50 and i NEVER used my healing in groups worth a crap. It just wasnt needed. Your heals wont ever be good enough to matter pre 50. After that i dont know. So wis isnt a factor imo for choosing race. Half elf is a better choice than a high elf. High elfs is barely a step up from erudites, and that isnt saying much. Yah they have higher Wis, but at lvl 50 youll wish you had had the extra stam/str on your way there.

Thats my two cents.

Somewhat true that Wisdom pre-50 isn't too relevant, it's very relevant after 50. Especially in Velious.

[Caso]

Also, while you're at it, go get yourself http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4424 to click between every swing... 12dmg, but 3 sec cast time and used inbetween swings will definitely add up.

how?? Velius isnt out yet=p

[Llodd]

Hang on a mo. Since when were High elves all nature-y. You're thinking of wood elves.

HE's are a hoighty toity namby pamby bunch of egotistical arrogant toffs..

[Aegnarion]

[[ From a RP perspective it doesn't feel right playing a paladin worshipping Tunare. I think that if you really care about the starting stats more then you are a min maxer and should go High Elf / Tunare for the defender, if you are not a min maxer (don't see the point myself, you never even notice the difference ) then play what fits the bill, play what you think looks cool as a paladin because if you don't enjoy the class/race combo you are pretty much in for a hellish grind probably only to reroll before you even get into the teens ]]

[falkun]

Assuming you are dead set on HIE or HEF, pick Tunare, simply for the Nature's Defender. One of the best looking weapon graphics ever, and a good sword to boot.

Then the next decision is based on looks. Here are the Velious armor textures for Half-Elf and High Elf. High Elf is better in my opinion, but you can make your own conclusions.

From a min/max perspective, HEF get slightly better base stats, but both are inferior to DWF. ERU bring up the rear in paladin starting stats.

Good luck!

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Assuming you are dead set on HIE or HEF, pick Tunare, simply for the Nature's Defender. One of the best looking weapon graphics ever, and a good sword to boot.

Then the next decision is based on looks. Here are the Velious armor textures for Half-Elf and High Elf. High Elf is better in my opinion, but you can make your own conclusions.

From a min/max perspective, HEF get slightly better base stats, but both are inferior to DWF. ERU bring up the rear in paladin starting stats.

Good luck!

From a min-max perspective, it's a paladin <_<. Brellsbot~

Also, nature's defender is...okay? But it's absolutely destroyed by most velious equivalent weapons. Even something as silly to attain (and droppable, so save ya plats) as Narandi's Lance vastly outperforms the weapon. Also, it's a spear, and fuck yeah spears.

link for lazy: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6249

edit: I should also point out that paladin's did make fairly good group healers, often forgoing melee stats for simply caster stats to spam more aoe heals in melee groups. Even with hybrid fixes, without defensive, it's simply a trash tank for the most part.

[Ferok]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, nature's defender is...okay? But it's absolutely destroyed by most velious equivalent weapons. Even something as silly to attain (and droppable, so save ya plats) as Narandi's Lance vastly outperforms the weapon. Also, it's a spear, and fuck yeah spears.

link for lazy: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6249

A couple things:
While ND is a fine weapon, the lack of 2H Bash means it's inferior to FD. It is, as you point out, also inferior to some Velious weapons. However, I take issue with your use of 'Equivalent', as ND is ridiculously easy to get - especially compared to Epic.

Further, I saw only a handful of Narandi's during live - hardly a common weapon.

Finally, aside from Epic (much more difficult) and raid loot, it's a difficult weapon to upgrade in Velious. I raided NToV, Sleepers, PoG, etc - I didn't completely obsolete my epic until Ssra, though I missed that roll on the Tunare sword once.

[Hurley]

roll a warrior or cleric

[Emilly]

I'm biased! High Elf! =D

[Droog007]

Originally Posted by Aegnarion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From a RP perspective it doesn't feel right playing a paladin worshipping Tunare...

Tunare is all about her Paladins and Clerics... I'm sure she loves the grubby Wood Elf Druids, too ... but they are kinda like the landscaping crew - as opposed the the High (and very white) Elves, who cannot even choose to be lowly Druids.

Remember - which playable race does Tunare most resemble? Certainly not the shorter, browner elf...