Ghaz's Plight

[Qaedain]

Originally Posted by Otto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Triumvirate of water. (E'ci, Tarew Marr, Povar)

In the context of the image, it's most certainly Prexus, god of the ocean. Prexus, Tunare and Brell formed a pact to keep Veeshan in check; they also seeded the world with the first races: the Kedge, the Elves and the Underfoot, respectively.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Ghaz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another theory is that of the 4 horseman. The outer 4 symbols represent the evil gods:Rallos, Inny , Bertox , Cazic.

I don't feel comfortable with lumping Rallos Zek in the evil gods category. He's not exactly neutral, but you can certainly worship him and still not be KoS to most.

For one thing he is a sworn enemy of Bertox.

Second, the 4 gods mentioned do not properly fit the 4-horsemen profile, all we have is pestilence and war but no true famine or death. As stated before, In the EQ pantheon war and pestilence are not friends.

Finally, the 4-horsemen in general is Earth mythology which would not belong anywhere in Norrathian lore.

[mixxit]

Originally Posted by Cyrano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the dragon hater is Mayong, outside of his home is a druid ring with the tree symbol...

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Originally Posted by utenan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Looking glass could mean something like, crystal ball, which sees the future, like the future of eq II pic is suppose to do (Imagination!)

I really do help too much!

[Qaedain]

Further proof that Antonia/Enoxus is at the 10 PM inside the circle:

Velia Truesight says to you, "'To access the chamber, stand before the claymore monument and utter the words "Honor, Valor and Truth." The true Enoxus is on the inner ring of the calendar, at ten o'clock.'"

Velia Treusight says to you, "Kyle Antihilus Bayle, the Cure-Bearer, has returned from the grave? Fascinating! Does it get any weirder?"

You say, "It wasn't a coup attempt after all. He's in league with some creature from the void that desires the Qeynos Claymore."

Velia Truesight says to you, "Hmmmm... well, I suppose that could make sense. Right now the Order of Marr has Enoxus, the Claymore. So perhaps that membership roster I translated was one of theirs? I thought it contained too many non-Qeynosians to be some national organization."

[Qaedain]

Something that also feels relevant:

You say, "Hail, A stranger"

a stranger says to you, "Teir'Dal, you remind me of the past. So alike are we. I pray that we do not run the same path... for the sake of all Norrath."

You say to a stranger, "Who are you?"

a stranger says to you, "My apologies! It is quite rude of me to retain my helm in the midst of social activities such as our conversation. Ah! This is much better."

You say to a stranger, "It is you, Mayong Mistmoore!"

a stranger says to you, "There is no need to be alarmed. I am not searching for new recruits nor am I interested in libation. Now, let us discuss the Chelsith Stone."

You say to a stranger, "Where is Fiddy Bobick?"

a stranger says to you, "Like all the relevant items in this shadow box, he has been returned to my vaults for further research. I cannot have the stench of the shadows interfere with fate. But do not worry, he shall be released in due time, safe and sound."

You say to Lord Mayong Mistmoore, "What do you mean by the phrase, "shadow box?""

Lord Mayong Mistmoore says to you, "This Moppet Shoppe does not exist. It is a pocket outside of time and space, but still bordering our world. The shadows often lurk in places like this. It is where they have the most power outside of oblivion."

You say to Lord Mayong Mistmoore, "What were they looking for?"

Lord Mayong Mistmoore says to you, "One of their agents used Lord Bobick as a vessel. He then came to Kunark in search of the origin of the Chelsith Stone. They found it, after possessing some of my minions and stealing the stone along with their bodies. Fortunately, they also encountered the guardian of the chamber, the Leviathan."

You say to Lord Mayong Mistmoore, "Then they needed me and my heroes to destroy the Leviathan."

Lord Mayong Mistmoore says to you, "You and your army slew the beast and reclaimed the stone. They would have taken it from you had you happened to lose to a shadow infused Lord Bobick. But you are far too powerful for a shadow and some overpowered moppets."

You say to Lord Mayong Mistmoore, "Then you came here to reclaim the Chelsith Stone."

Lord Mayong Mistmoore says to you, "I sent the drachnids to Kunark to find the Chamber of Destiny. It was discovered and you have rid it of the guardian. I can now study the chamber in private. The shissar have left us a calendar within that must be excavated. The stone was once part of this."

You say to Lord Mayong Mistmoore, "What is so special about a calendar."

Lord Mayong Mistmoore says to you, "The shissar marked the end of our universe on the calendar, Ages End. Unfortunately, the Leviathan has buried the chamber and all of Chelsith in its arcane excrement. My minions will work hard and long to uncover the calendar."

You say to Lord Mayong Mistmoore, "But what does the Chelsith Stone have to do with a calendar."

Lord Mayong Mistmoore says to you, "It is the sigil at the heart of the calendar, or it was, until a would be chieftain named Thuuga removed it from its resting place. "
You say to Lord Mayong Mistmoore, "What do you do with the sigil? "

Lord Mayong Mistmoore says to you, "Nothing... yet. The Sigil of Ages End is a gift from the planar realms. It is not as we once believed in Mistmyr. The powers above are ignorant and they passed that curse onto us. Such are the fruits of blind faith. However, I know much more than I did back then."

You say to Lord Mayong Mistmoore, "What did you learn about the sigil?"

Lord Mayong Mistmoore to you, "It is a key to Ages End, but it is not the only one. It is only part of the puzzle that must be assembled. I must uncover the calendar and find the other pieces of the puzzle, the Monoliths of Theer."

You say to Lord Mayong Mistmoore, "I will not let you have the Chelsith Stone."

Lord Mayong Mistmoore says to you, "You will hand it to me freely and just as easily as I allowed Aeteok to return to Sir Lucan D'Lere. Destiny shall bring us together on the brink of Ages End."
You say to Lord Mayong Mistmoore, "Then I can keep the stone?"

Lord Mayong Mistmoore says to you, "You will keep the stone safe until we are destined to meet again. We have begun an odyssey that we cannot walk away from. It will always be a part of our lives, until we meet at the end."

You say to Lord Mayong Mistmoore, "What now?"

Lord Mayong Mistmoore says to you, "I shall continue the hunt for the sixteen Monoliths of Theer and you shall hone your skills. You may be a champion, the finest on Norrath, but that is not good enough to face what we must face... at the end."

You say to Lord Mayong Mistmoore, "When will we meet again?"

Lord Mayong Mistmoore says to you, "We'll meet beyond the mirror of destiny. Until then, keep the stone safe and never let it go."

You say to Lord Mayong Mistmoore, "What happens if I lose it?"

Some experience has been paid toward your debt.

Lord Mayong Mistmoore says to you, "Then I will have no need of you and you can return to being an untapped cask of blood. Make no mistake, we are not friends. Do not lose the one thing that keeps you alive. Now, go before this place collapses."

You say to Lord Mayong Mistmoore, "Farewell."

You receive: The Chelsith Stone

[Nedala]

I dont really get whats this all about, looks very interesting but i guess my english is too bad.

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This is a screenshot i made in EQ2. Its in the tower over freeport, its Lucans place. Those burning things you see in the middle of the symbols are copies of soulfire (one of them is the original).

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I believe this is inside Shard of Love (it really looks like that). Behind this door you fight Mithaniel Marr, so the symbol on the door is related to Mithaniel or Erollisi Marr i think.

[redghosthunter]

"I don't feel comfortable with lumping Rallos Zek in the evil gods category. He's not exactly neutral, but you can certainly worship him and still not be KoS to most."--- Chic

Evil Powers can and do , complete with each other over power. A God of War, is certainly not a Good- Alignment.

Lawful Evil- Alignment, seek's power and control for self, employing others using some kind of hierarchy of followers.
Chaotic Evil- Alignment is more of random acts of evil. No use of others to carry out their selfish ambition.
Neutral Evil- Alignment is more of a if it benefits me... attitude. A Neutral Evil can work with Good Alignments... as long as they get something.


Second, I stand with Ghaz, that there are hints to the past of the Realm the Planet in the symbols across the land. Veshaan at the core first and creator of the dragonraces. Brell-Tunare-Prexos, in opposition to Veshaan. The Trinity of Gods (Brell-Tunare-Prexos,) are in the world thus .... In the circle. If you travel to any of the places of those 3 gods you go .. into the earth. Outside of the circle.. outside of the planet you have the planes of the 4 Evil Gods... You can not reach them unless you Port.... off the world. Innoruuk WIZ port, Cazic Portal, Rallos ... later (POP) a portal, Bertoxx later (POP) a portal. THUS outside the world. This is easy to follow.

Third, Variant was a small company. There is much filler all over the game. We all have seen mistakes of all kinds. Ok i can follow Maysong wanted to become a God. I can follow the other major players involved with struggles. BUT, when it comes right down to it the symbols are WRONG. No Dark Elf would ever have any lessor deities symbols in their cities. To that would be to Invoke the ANGER of Innoruuk. Once out of the favor of Innoruuk the Clerics of Innoruuk would not have their prayers/spells answered. Less face it Dark Elves and the other races are NOT watered down HUMANs. There is no major power in the world of everquest ruling all the races putting symbols in there cities. Its all filler.

The Developers IF they want any kinda following other than 5th graders needs to READ the heritage of D&D/TSR/Wizards of the Coast, and actually write material that makes sense. Not try and REWRITE, history to fit some kind of new market that they are reaching for. I'm kinda getting the feeling that we are bring MARKETED for a new line of books or maybe that new expansion. Something that EQ live did constantly IE LoN card game and all the other trash.

[Mmohunter]

The symbol on the orb is Veeshan , ruler of the Plane of Sky ( the sky surrounds Norrath!) and the first to populate Norrath with her brood. This also means the orb depicted on the stone is Norrath. The circle around Norrath represents Veeshan's Veil over Norrath or maybe some sort of "circle of protection?". The three symbols "on" Norrath are that of Brell Serilis ( the arrow with 3 candles ) , Tunare ( the 9 seeds ) , and Prexus ( 3 waves ). They are "on" Norrath because they were the next Gods to populate Norrath with their creations. The 3 symbols "surrounding" Veeshan also represent the pact that they made together to keep Veeshan in check. According to lore, Ralos Zek was also present at this meeting of the "good" gods but kept his distance so to say.

I agree!

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by spoolie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the only 2 gnomes that jump at me, are Maelin Starpyre.. and later on meldrath.

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Has anyone tried talking to him recently? He's in the mino caves.

[Cyrano]

I'm confident the Gnome we're looking for is Meldrath, the event in question was opening up Paineel. However, the version we need is GM controlled so he's not very important in the mino caves =P

The southeast emblem is of Bertoxx, it is the symbol of the Xolous who effectively created him. In EQOA lore the Xolous are the only thing feared by dragons, they worshiped disease. Consequently the dead hills lie where they used to live until Bertoxx removed it to the plane of disease.

Following the Xolous a new immortal race came to live in the Dead Hills who were obsessed with death and studying it. This was the Envar, the alien-esque race of Rodcet Knife (little known fact, he is actually the second prime healer).

A modern day (p99) version of this symbol are the Obelisks, which is a source of power for Bertoxx. As we know that the Xulous and Envar were all-powerful races, we also know that the Erudites appropriated it from a cache of knowledge they discovered which brought Norrath out of the Lost Age. Isn't it interesting that th heart of disease and the heart of healing - eternal enemies - came from the same area? Isn't it also interesting that upon openly using Necrotic powers the Erudites had their first civil war then split into two separate groups in Paineel and Erudin? What if the Xolous and Envar came from the same origins? The only hitch in this; Envar look like aliens.