So that's it for the election.

[Alawen]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oooo give some examples !


@ Alawen, there are no records for the vast majority of people who existed. If he was a prince who knows, that is the story, but jesus walked on water too so meh.

The point is moot esp since it has nothing to do with Mitt Romney wearing special underwear to protect him from the lake of fire.

That's what I think is so fascinating! This whole thread got derailed in large part because no one wants to deal with the fact that Mormonism is even more whack than more conventional Christians!

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oooo give some examples!

You really make me wanna work, doncha? lol.

Well...read THIS first.

Then, read THIS.

Hope that clears it up for ya.

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[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Alawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's what I think is so fascinating! This whole thread got derailed in large part because no one wants to deal with the fact that Mormonism is even more whack than more conventional Christians!

I brought it up! Batshit crazy versus less batshit crazy is what my argument was.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Alawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's what I think is so fascinating! This whole thread got derailed in large part because no one wants to deal with the fact that Mormonism is even more whack than more conventional Christians!

Seems kind of idiotic to argue which idiotic idea is more idiotic than the other.

[mgellan]

Originally Posted by Boilon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm Canadian actually and yea, most of us do think republicans are bat shit insane

/agree

[sulious]

Originally Posted by Hailto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are we forgetting that Romney destroyed the everloving shit out of Obama in the 1st debate?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_GjFMzVT7c


No shampoo is better...

[mgellan]

Originally Posted by Lucky [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This was more about the Alarti dumbfuck saying anyone who has ever believed in a God is some irrational nutcase whose ideas we should completely object so I threw out Ben Franklin and Einstein but obviously you can go down the list of millions of these kind of examples. Positive atheism is as blind as a faith.

Belief in God is a cultural thing generally propogated to kids by parents. A mind virus, if you will. The fact that some smart people (eg you forgot Newton, Leonardo, etc.) does not provide positive proof of the existence of God, it just means smart people can as readily compartmentalize bat-shit crazy ideas as not so smart people. People that believe in God in the face of absolutely zero evidence have simply stuck their belief in the "believe without evidence" bucket even if the same people thing belief in UFOs, Bigfoot and Santa Clause are stupid.

Read "The Believing Brain" By Michael Shermer, "Demon Haunted World" by Carl Sagan and similar books if you want to see what the other side is saying. If not, try to snatch a breath occasionally while your head is shoved up your ass.

Regards,
Mg

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by sulious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No shampoo is better...

Don't fall for the sham. Buy real poo.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Alawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Josephus wrote well after the supposed life and death of Jesus Christ and Tacitus wrote more than a generation later. Moreover, possibilities for introducing later artifacts into both texts such as interpolation are widely disputed even among Christian Bible scholars! Your proof is just as weak as trying to cite the Bible itself. Please, bring up the shroud, I beg you!

Lol. You are ignorant. This isn't a matter of shrouds and superstition. It was 2000 years ago -- they didn't have an obituaries section in the local magazine. You have a half a dozen sources from within 50-100 years of Jesus' life speaking about him as a historical figure and confirming some of the same basic facts of his life and death -- including non-Christian scholars. There's more proof that Jesus existed than there is proof that Shakespeare actually wrote the work credited to him, and Shakespeare isn't even 500 years old yet. And for the record, secular scholars widely agree that Jesus did exist (and that Shakespeare wrote the works credited to him).

This is a direct line from Wikipedia: Virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed,[5][6][7][8] and biblical scholars and classical historians regard theories of his non-existence as effectively refuted.[9][10][11]

You're holding Jesus' existence to a standard that is completely out of touch with the context of the period. What would it take to convince you he existed? A photograph? Almost everything we know about antiquity is based on third person accounts from people that weren't alive when the supposed events took place. For Jesus, there are a plethora of references to him from a variety of sources, including highly reliable non-Christian authors that wrote in the immediate historical aftermath (less than 100 years) after his death.

Unless you also refute basically everything researchers have concluded regarding antiquity, including the very existence of certain famous authors, poets, and emperors, there is more than enough evidence to conclusively say that Jesus did live.

[mgellan]

Originally Posted by Lucky [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ben Franklin discovered electricity and you just blow it off

Shut up you fucking moran

Nice descent into ad hominum. "Well... uh... oh yeah, well you suck!" Well played sir.

Regards,
Mg