Ichiro was out

[Everlove]

He wasn't that far out of the "base line", I think the umpire figured it was an easy enough tag to make so that it wasn't really an issue. The base line from 3rd to home is always a grey area, some of the runners rounding 3rd gotta watch out they don't fall into the dugout they take such wide turns, I think he did pretty well to be that close to the straight line from 3rd to home...

Wieters' fault imo for flopping around like a baby harp seal rather than just blocking the plate for an easy out. Don't care about either team, but that's how I saw it anyway.

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Everlove [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wieters' fault imo for flopping around like a baby harp seal rather than just blocking the plate for an easy out. Don't care about either team, but that's how I saw it anyway.

Not really Wieters' fault. Bad relay took him four feet up the line and Ichiro just took advantage of that unfortunate positioning. Wieters could have reacted quicker, maybe, but he didn't have a chance to block the plate due to the throw from the cut-off being off.

Well within the norm, though. Those kind of plays happen at home and second.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Everlove [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He wasn't that far out of the "base line", I think the umpire figured it was an easy enough tag to make so that it wasn't really an issue. The base line from 3rd to home is always a grey area

I don't know why there would be a "grey area." The rule very plainly says what is ok and what isn't, in my opinion. And it is pretty apparent that you have no idea what the rule does say, based on your post.

Originally Posted by MLB Official Rules

7.08 Any runner is out when --
(a) (1) He runs more than three feet away from his baseline to avoid being tagged unless his action is to avoid interference with a fielder fielding a batted ball. A runner’s baseline is established when the tag attempt occurs and is a straight line from the runner to the base he is attempting to reach safely

The "base line" in this instance was an imaginary line from ichiro to home plate that formed at the moment the first tag was attempted, correct? And straying more than 3 feet from that line means that Ichiro should be out, correct? And scrambling around outside the back end of the right-handed batter's box was more than 3 feet from that line.

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those kind of plays happen at home and second.

The equivalent of this play at second base doesn't happen, because the only time there is a tag play at second is when the runner is running directly towards second base from first base AND the runner is sliding. You just don't see runners strafing around 5 feet out towards left-center on the backside 2nd base without having touched the bag already. And if a runner did end up over there after circling counterclockwise from the first-base side of second while trying to avoid a tag, he'd be freaking called out regardless of whether the tag was made.