Global item rarity needs to be looked at

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What ive learned in this thread;

Ele and falkun are smart people

[Rasah]

Remember when the Jade Chokidai Prod was going for 24k? Prices are gonna go down until the plat per hour normalizes.

[CrystalBlue]

Everything seems far more common here then i've seen on live or EQmac.

I'd say its a combination of item drop rate and rare mob spawn both being set too high, and "features" like being able to cherry pick name and named place holders with invisi-pulling through the whole zone to the zone line and/or through multiple walls and floors (most of the time the mob/named warps right up through the floor to the waiting party).

[Tecmos Deception]

Or we could assume it is the simple, obvious answer, rather than the complicated and unprovable one.

The server has a tiny population compared to live but does not have a proportionally lower amount of hours spent camping the big cash camps. Couple that with an extra long time in Kunark and big surprise, we have a high concentration of high-end items on the server.

[CrystalBlue]

Or they are humans trying their best on a emu server and if we let them know what items/rare mobs are popping far too common, they can and will fix it?

Nilbog: ferocious hammerhead will be seen less often. So will the Driftwood Treasure Chest.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ate#post455880

[Tecmos Deception]

Oh cool. You have a bunch of proof that spawn rates and drop rates of a dozen or so different high-end mobs are off compared to live? Niiiiceee.

[Xanthias]

Originally Posted by Rasah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Remember when the Jade Chokidai Prod was going for 24k? Prices are gonna go down until the plat per hour normalizes.

Rasah you are using logic and making sense, that has no place on these boards....

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or we could assume it is the simple, obvious answer, rather than the complicated and unprovable one.

The server has a tiny population compared to live but does not have a proportionally lower amount of hours spent camping the big cash camps. Couple that with an extra long time in Kunark and big surprise, we have a high concentration of high-end items on the server.

Originally Posted by CrystalBlue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or they are humans trying their best on a emu server and if we let them know what items/rare mobs are popping far too common, they can and will fix it?



http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ate#post455880

It is a multitude of factors including, but not limited to, the factors quoted above. Where people have been able to demonstrate an incorrect (high or low) drop rate or spawn rate, the devs have taken the evidence and acted appropriately.

At the same time, Kunark came out 1 year after EQ, epic quests came 5 months after Kunark, Velious came out 8 months after Kunark and 3 months after epics. EQ was still experiencing a massive influx of new players with the veteran players moving forward each expansion not having time to go back and farm old world content when new content was being released at a relatively brisk pace.

As I stated earlier in this thread, no one had wikis or walkthroughs handed to them on day 0 of each expansion or quest. Uber guilds held boss strategies close and quests were crowd sourced for weeks/months from scratch across many forums, some with good information others with poor information. The original EQ client disabling alt+tab further hampered the ability of players to accurately share information that didn't have access to a second box, writing/printing everything, or violating the EULA with WinEQ, but at the same time the disabling of alt+tab further re-enforced the "You're in our world now" aspect of the game.

To contrast the original experience and time line, players here on P99 know exactly where to level, what quests to complete, what mobs to camp and had additional time to complete each of these based on the ability of the devs to update/fix timeline issues as they cropped up. The player base here had 5 additional months of vanilla to farm/level/alts before Kunark released. The players had an additional 5 months between the release of Kunark and the implementation of epic quests, which everyone knew what exactly would be needed ahead of time and gathered the pre-epic pieces that were available in addition to gaining more levels. It has now been 18 months since Kunark dropped, and we do not have Velious, as of today that is an additional 10 months of Trakanon, VS, world dragons and an additional 6 months of epic quest completions. Without a release date of Velious, these disparities are going to become increasingly larger.

We will never truly get to experience EQ as we experienced it in 1999-2001 again (like re-watching the Sixth Sense), but we can attempt to help the devs to recreate a close approximation of the original trilogy. We can not erase the knowledge people have about the game, which was one of the amazing things about 1999-2001 everyone was fresh and experiencing a new world that was ripe for exploration. People didn't even have accurate maps for quite a while after vanilla release, as people had to draw them from scratch like 15th century explorers.

An across the board reduction in drop rates of rare items is not the fix, if there could even be one at this point in time, the solution is the release of new content for players to move on to.

Hopefully, the players and devs can continue to refine the server and timeline progression for an eventual new server that can be automated to release timeline appropriate content and patches. For now, I'm just playing to enjoy EQ and provide bug reports as I come across relevant material to help provide for a better experience in P99v2.0, if there ever is one. I would hope other people follow suit.

[CrystalBlue]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh cool. You have a bunch of proof that spawn rates and drop rates of a dozen or so different high-end mobs are off compared to live? Niiiiceee.

How do you think the above quoted patch note even came about?

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...riftwood+chest


Help do the research. Or maybe you just like everything being candyland? Choice is yours.

[Dullah]

With very few exceptions, everyone playing emu server know exactly what to farm and how to get it. The player skill level now is like an average of 10x higher than it was during this era on live. Also, blue has had kunark over twice as long as it was around on live before velious' release, so of course its flooded with fungi tunics (for example).

I can tell you, using spore king as an example, camping fungi tunic on live yielded FAR more tunics (and staffs/robes) than it ever will here with the kings super low spawn rate, yet those items are still concentrated here due to time. Went 20 spawns (10 hours) on red without seeing a king here where you'd only go an hour or two tops before one would pop on live.

Not everything is "more common", that is for sure.