no global ooc in offpeak killed the game

[nicemace]

Originally Posted by jilena [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The population has continued to increase since the loss of global OOC. I don't think that is going to change. As more and more people are made aware of this server it's population growth will continue as this growth is somewhat exponential. I.e. someone tells 5 of their friends they each tell 2 of their friends who tell two of their friends who tell two of their friends etc. Even if 5 out of the first batch of 6 quit here you are still left with 31 players instead of 6...

there is no direct correlation between population growth and global ooc, to think that there is...well....

correct me if im wrong, but wasn't the population increasing before the global got taken off? so its pretty pointless to bring growth into the argument.

[eqdruid76]

Originally Posted by Vonblund [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's more likely.. he's tried to group, and when he found out it was not working he found some other way to progress, which is fine when you play a soloable class.

But of course you interpret whichever way suits you... selective reading.

If that's true, then why is he complaining about a social issue that doesn't even affect his playstyle?

Very much more likely....he soled all the way to 50, made no friends or contacts, pissed a lot of people off on the way, and is being ignored by the players that are having no trouble whatsoever grouping during off peak hours. I seriously doubt that serverwide chat would aid his quest for a group at all, and he simply wants EVERYONE to read his QQ about how hard the game is for him.....

[eqdruid76]

Ultimately, serverwide chat is not coming back, and very few players quit over it. Those that did....good riddance to bad rubbish. People simply need something to complain about. Which is fine, their tears nourish me....

[nicemace]

Originally Posted by eqdruid76 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If that's true, then why is he complaining about a social issue that doesn't even affect his playstyle?

Very much more likely....he soled all the way to 50, made no friends or contacts, pissed a lot of people off on the way, and is being ignored by the players that are having no trouble whatsoever grouping during off peak hours. I seriously doubt that serverwide chat would aid his quest for a group at all, and he simply wants EVERYONE to read his QQ about how hard the game is for him.....

lol.. made a bunch of cool mates that i grouped with while leveling.. problem is we werent in same time zones so grouping with them wasnt always viable.

you really don't put much consideration into thinking about middle ground or anything do you. its the extreme of both ends or nothing is possible.

PS. the game isnt hard. i was doing levels between 40 - 50, 5 hours per level. better than what most people will get [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[holkan]

Originally Posted by eqdruid76 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If that's true, then why is he complaining about a social issue that doesn't even affect his playstyle?

Very much more likely....he soled all the way to 50, made no friends or contacts, pissed a lot of people off on the way, and is being ignored by the players that are having no trouble whatsoever grouping during off peak hours. I seriously doubt that serverwide chat would aid his quest for a group at all, and he simply wants EVERYONE to read his QQ about how hard the game is for him.....

lmfao i like how you dont like his opinion so you pile on a bunch of bullshit about how hes pissed off alot of people and how terrible he is and has no friends and being ignored by players. You are something else and its quite pathetic.

[nosto]

Originally Posted by nicemace [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there is no direct correlation between population growth and global ooc, to think that there is...well....

correct me if im wrong, but wasn't the population increasing before the global got taken off? so its pretty pointless to bring growth into the argument.

Well actually its not any sort of "...well...." and to use a word like correlation would have been correct had you used it correctly. I would say that there is a correlation for higher numbers but not a causation. And its probably too soon to tell how many people will quit due to not being able to use the functions in game that global was such a crutch for in the first place. If the population continues to rise, obviously the removal of global channels was not a poor choice as the amount of incoming exceeds the amount of outgoing.

For a more personal example, when I joined the server and saw channels were global I thought "eh its ok" but when I referred several friends and they saw the channels were global they were actually turned off. When I told them the goal was to eventually have the global chat removed - they said "ok i'll bite" so in a lot of ways a lot of people wanted that.

[Malrubius]

Originally Posted by nicemace [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there is no direct correlation between population growth and global ooc, to think that there is...well....

correct me if im wrong, but wasn't the population increasing before the global got taken off? so its pretty pointless to bring growth into the argument.

The theoretical correlation we were presented with over and over (and over and over) is that the population would surely go DOWN if global OOC were taken away.

Pointing out the fact now that the population in fact continues to go up is merely demonstrating that the earlier argument was completely and utterly wrong.

So you are right - there is no direct correlation between population growth and global ooc. So we can drop that as any kind of argument to bring it back. Ever.

[eqdruid76]

Originally Posted by holkan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lmfao i like how you dont like his opinion so you pile on a bunch of bullshit about how hes pissed off alot of people and how terrible he is and has no friends and being ignored by players. You are something else and its quite pathetic.

Serverwide OOC isn't coming back. You lose. Good day sir.

[eqdruid76]

I SAID GOOD DAY!!!!!!!!!!

[Zithax]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is the year 2010. People generally have computers powerful enough to run EQ in windowed mode while having an IRC client up. The IRC #project1999 channel can replace global OOC if everyone really wanted it to. Yes, it's a tad more inconvenient to switch out of window and ask/respond to something, but since obviously it's game-breaking for some of you to not have some sort of global chat, I would think that would be a minor inconvenience.

All that does is circumvent the issue creating a band-aid type solution, when it would be easier all around just to implement chat-channels.

Global channels didn't destroy the EC experience on the Combine server on live. They enhanced it. Don't ask me how or why, but people still used a global auction channel AND used EC as a hub.

Ask yourself, does it make sense to not have global chat, but allow people to /tell others across the world? or /guild across the world? Quit being hypocritical.