Outlaw Powerleveling

[Arclanz]

Surely this has come up before; if anyone can find an older thread, please bump it so I can comment there.

It seems like a double standard to outlaw boxing but permit powerleveling. (especially since I suspect most powerleveling is actually from boxers)

[Sirken]

if u suspect boxxing, make a petition, and include the names of the two players.

[Vladigan]

Originally Posted by Arclanz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Surely this has come up before; if anyone can find an older thread, please bump it so I can comment there.

It seems like a double standard to outlaw boxing but permit powerleveling. (especially since I suspect most powerleveling is actually from boxers)

I have often wondered the same thing. The mentality of banning boxing was that it takes away from the community theme of EQ and takes up spots in groups where other players could occupy.

But IMO, PLing is more detrimental to server community than anything else. Once person, or two I guess, can rob entire group(s) of pulls and obviously since the person being PL'd has no desire to group with similar levels, takes away from the community theme....

Frankly, I have no problem with PLing or Solo players, but I am amazed by the mentality of this server when it comes to being so punishing to boxers, but turns a blind eye to other things that are just as if not more detrimental to the sever.....

(I truly believe if you banned PLing, most Boxers would go away as well. Why else Box? )

[Picked]

Couple points to make. Powerleveling does not mean someone is 2 boxing. You make friends on this server, or even have friends that join you. It's nothing out of the ordinary for someone to get a wild hair and fire up a character and ask for help from friends with it.

Second point is, people look at powerleveling as a reason for people not to group. When in all actuality the person being powerleveled probably wouldn't have started that character and leveled them without it. They would have just stuck with their mains. Half the reason people roll alts is because they can afford or have resources for powerleveling. So it's not like outlawing it is going to get a bunch of people wanting to group all of a sudden.

Powerleveling is something that is a luxury. Much like teleports, or sow. It's not something you have to have. But you pay extra or go the extra mile for it. If someone was ruining your camp because of PL that is not good. There is still ethics involved with or without powerleveling. But that doesn't make all powerlevelers evil either.

[Vicatin]

This is silly. The 2 arent even comparable. A very small % gets PLd, theres no way to monitor PLing either.

[Tecmos Deception]

95% of the time PLing means either one of two things:

1) the two people are friends, or
2) the two people have both played the game a lot already.


God forbid friends should play together, and god forbid that high-level people who have nothing else to do should accept money from someone else who has a high-level character and wants to level a new character quickly, am I right?


Edit - of course there is the third possibility, the other 5% of the time, that the PLer is just helping someone out out of the goodness of his heart. That is the most vile form of PL, of course.

[Mouse]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

95% of the time PLing means either one of two things:

1) the two people are friends, or
2) the two people have both played the game a lot already.


God forbid friends should play together, and god forbid that high-level people who have nothing else to do should accept money from someone else who has a high-level character and wants to level a new character quickly, am I right?


Edit - of course there is the third possibility, the other 5% of the time, that the PLer is just helping someone out out of the goodness of his heart. That is the most vile form of PL, of course.

Good job here.

[Picked]

The whole 2 boxing issue to me doesn't hold water. Sure if you can roll a monk/shaman combo or something similar and duo you can. But in my EQ live experiences most of the groups I actually got into were functioning purely because there was someone 2 boxing a cleric or tank that was vital to starting the group in the first place.

I'm sure it would be different now then it was after 15+ expansions on live, but it isn't lightyears difference. We all know to have a good functioning group you need a tank, a healer, and a puller. Well what are the things you are looking for the most to hold a group together or form one? A tank and a healer.

Spent a ton of time with people boxing characters and got great exp I would have never gotten sitting LFG waiting for a "legit" group to form up.

Sure there will be 2 boxing camps for items, but most camps are already solo'd by 60s that are important.

[Slycen]

I guess they should ban 60's who solo camps too?

Because some group of 50-52's can't get in there now.....

This is silly.

[Orruar]

How would you enforce a ban on powerleveling? Unliking 2 boxing (which really should be legal), there is no distinct line between doing it and not. When I'm running somewhere and buff some noobs along the way, that could be construed as powerleveling. If you want it to be enforcable, you'd have to ban all help to a person or group of people from someone outside of that group. Talk about killing the spirit of cooperation in the game.