Timesinks != difficult

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Originally Posted by square [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's cool and I respect you for that. However saying "idiotic" David Beckhams or Michael Johnsons (lol) just shows you are jealous/envious and a hater. You also fail to recognize professional athletes are required by contract (some do extra) to help out in communities, plenty make donations and help other causes as well. But you'd know this since you're so intellectual though I'm sure.

Athletes attain great health/fitness levels, name recognition, and lets not forget, money. Ask 100 people on the street if they know David Beckham, then ask if they know Bertrand Russel. Survey says...

That last point is the very source of the distress I mentioned. :P

It's not really being 'a hater', it is the truth... Have you ever heard either of those attempt to string a sentence together? One might as well look up to a thoroughbred horse for life guidance.

Our society idolises fools and abhors thinkers.

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Originally Posted by theaetatus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Our society idolises fools and abhors thinkers.

fools vs thinkers? Why are professional athletes considered fools? This is a dichotomy you created in your head in order to rationalize your failures within the bounds of modern American society.

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To get slightly back on topic, I do not consider any of the three achievements you listed to be particularly notable. Fitness takes single-mindedness alone (not necessarily a good thing, a means rather than an end), celebrity status is vapid, usually fleeting and double-edged, and amassing money is hardly something to be seen as an ideal.

So that's why I see their achievements as worthless. As worthless as any of our video game achievements.

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Originally Posted by bluntfang [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

fools vs thinkers? Why are professional athletes considered fools? This is a dichotomy you created in your head in order to rationalize your failures within the bounds of modern American society.

Because, apart from a very small minority, they act, speak and behave as fools.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, etc...

Though my personal position is irrelevant, let's just say I'm not american and I am doing what I enjoy.

[bluntfang]

Originally Posted by theaetatus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because, apart from a very small minority, they act, speak and behave as fools.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, etc...

Though my personal position is irrelevant, let's just say I'm not american and I am doing what I enjoy.

hmm..

Originally Posted by square [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't need to insult athletes, especially since you don't know them, so how can you judge them based on random media coverage alone? Maybe they can't string together sentences because of nerves in front of a camera while being questioned, or because their PR people tell them what to say and what not to say. Every single word they spout gets coverage, anything that can be a story, WILL be a story. That's more nerve-wracking than performing at a sport you excel at.

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P.S. The personal attacks betray your rather obvious trolling position, square. If you had stuck to some rational arguments you may have been a little less obvious. Please keep this in mind for future attempts.

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Originally Posted by square [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nonathletic/untalented/lardo.

This part deems a response at least, as it rather illuminates your position. You equate talent with physical fitness again; do you consider someone that runs from A to B 0.1 second faster than 10,000 other people doing the same more talented than, for instance, someone who can put forward new philosophical or scientific theories?

Is 'talent' where you're from purely a physical thing?

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Originally Posted by theaetatus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This part deems a response at least, as it rather illuminates your position. You equate talent with physical fitness again; do you consider someone that runs from A to B 0.1 second faster than 10,000 other people doing the same more talented than, for instance, someone who can put forward new philosophical or scientific theories?

Is 'talent' where you're from purely a physical thing?

why do you never attempt to address the full content of his post, yet nitpick at things that he probably got right about you personally? At least square can insult you while making coherent and relevant arguments at the same time.

It's ok though, most fools have trouble double tasking.

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Originally Posted by square [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you sensitive internet rejects (or socrates wannabes) feel the need to say everyone is a troll? Its a cop out. You have no response, so I'm trolling. K.

I have responded to each of your points so far.

What marks you out as a troll is your immediate resort to personal attacks to try to provoke me. This suggests you are either trolling or hold a grudge against me. As I don't believe we have met before, the former would be the obvious conclusion.

If you don't want to be perceived as a troll, don't act like one. Try omitting the last paragraph of your posts so far and you'll see a marked improvement.

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Originally Posted by square [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That person who runs that .1 second faster would get tons of recognition, sponsorships, money etc. Ever hear of the Olympics? I guess they don't matter either.

New philosophical or scientific theories. Hmm...Do these theories help me during my every day life? Do they provide me entertainment? Will they change my life in any way over the course of my life? Sorry buddy. Stop being a hater.

Edit: Also another thing that cracked me up: You have a problem with modern western society, yet you claim not to be from over here in the first place. I don't think I need to point out the flaws in that. All you get is a: lol

See my previous post, I already explained I don't place much value in those things.

To suggest that new theories don't change your everyday life seems rather odd when you are apparently using a computer, and probably enjoy such things as electric light, fresh running water, central heating, etc ad infinitum.

As for the edit... There are scarcely enough facepalm gifs in the world to express my reaction. The US does not equate to 'western society', it is in fact only a very recent addition to it.